Devotional WE HAVE A LOT OF ISMS

WE HAVE A-LOT OF ISMS


Legalism Universalism Catholicism Armstrongism Pentecostalism Trinitarianism Binitarianism Unitarianism Jehovahs Witnessesism Mormonism All Protestantism ETC ETC ETC


There are a lot more “isms” that are in the world but all of them have one thing in common, they are all lies. Isms are carnal Satanically inspired ideas that are used to deceive.


The common thing is that all of them were the product of men or women of carnal minds. The only "ism" that is true is Yahwehism or Christism.
If Yahweh through Christ did not teach you then you are deceived. If you read books written by carnal men about their particular "ism" you are not taught by the Holy Spirit, and not even a spiritual babe, you fall for the lies contained in them , the “isms”. Mike Vinson is an excellent example of a carnal minded man, who does preach some truth on his website, he also has some of the most blasphemous writings I have ever seen. If you are a babe in Christ do not read his material as it is very convincing and highly deceptive.

There are Uni's Bi's and Tri's One, two or three . Even though the Uni's are right about only one GOD they too have some serious issues that need resolved. The problem all these churches have is they are stuck in their ways and have stopped growing and view any constructive criticism as Satan the devil. They all have closed minds and have reached a plateau in their growth. Of course they all have a human leader.

Herbert Armstrong taught a mixture of both covenants but focused mostly on the law and had no idea of what grace is. His teachings made sense to the carnal mind. Armstrong was a false Apostle, false Prophet and a deceitful worker. There must be over 50 splinter groups that have come out from Armstrongism.

The Pope
in the Catholic Church is just a man who thinks he is far more than what he is, a demonically influenced man leading the eldest daughter of the harlot of Babylon. Virtually everything that is taught by this church is false. It is no wonder that the churches that came out during the reformation contain much of the false Catholic beliefs.

Protestantism is a religious buffet, a smorgasbord, offering all kinds of false worship. For carnal people there is probably something that you will like.

Pentecostals just like having a good time . Their services usually have live bands and singing with the members waving hands and being drunk in the spirit or perhaps experiencing holy laughter. Sometimes they roll around on the floor thus acquiring the name holy rollers.

Liberalism
is truly an anything goes church. They will accept people that traditionally are rejected by mainstream. This church is especially popular with homosexuals and other types of sexual perverts. This church also disbelieves other doctrines and denies miracles. Basically you can do anything you want and still “go to heaven”.

Universalism says everybody will receive salvation and the people not saved by Christs sacrifice will be saved by the lake of fire. They do not not understand the unpardonable sin. They say GOD created all sentient life evil both angels and humans. Then they say that GOD desires to show HIS great power by giving salvation to everyone and some of this belief system even give salvation to Satan and the demons. They, like all other false churches, do have some truth but like all false churches more lie than truth.

Jehovahs Witnesses have some truth but believe Jesus was the angel Michael and in group favoritism concerning the 144,000 denying the bread and wine to all but those considered anointed that get to go to heaven while the remaining members are on Earth. They also have had many failed prophetic predictions.

Yes, everyone has their isms but as for me I have GODISM and Christism only, everything else is schism.
 

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When I think of Fundamentalism Christianity, the first thought that pops into my head is KJV Only nonsense.

When I think of Liberal Christianity, the first thing that pops into my head is that some believe it's OK to kill one's unborn baby within the womb.

Forgive me is these thoughts are incorrect. It's what I've been conditioned to think.

I'm cool w/ the extant manuscripts, science, commentaries, reading books for knowledge/entertainment/etc.

Censorship has it's place within Christianity. For example, if a Christian tells me that I shouldn't attend to support a gay pride parade, it get it, due to the scriptural warnings. However, if a Christian tells me that I shouldn't read a commentary by a certain scholar, I'm probably going to respond by saying, "Go pound salt."

Just my two cents on this chain. I've been gone for quite sometime.
 

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I am not a fundamentalist. I am not a liberal. However I would suggest that you study just what liberal Christianity is. Do you think faith in a dentist is the same as faith to GOD ? All the things you mentioned as a source for knowledge, do they have equal authority to scripture ? Liberal Christianity rejects the scripture as being the inspired word of GOD and that only simpletons believe that it is. William says I am a simpleton, where do you fit in with Williams accusation Bvenski ?
 

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I'd say faith in one's dentist is different than faith in the God. Praying for the God to guide the dentist's hands can't be a bad thing.

I'd say the extant manuscripts have equal authority to scripture. Some commentaries & books may as well, depending on topic and how it's presented.

Anything that rejects the scriptures as the inspired word of God is suspect. However, a caveat, there are extant manuscripts & bible translations that have been jacked w/ by men, so you have to be careful.

I haven't really thought of studying & believing the scriptures as being something that simpletons engage their time with. This is an odd notion that I haven't really come across.

For example, I believe in the virgin birth of Jesus. I believe it was a miracle, since this is the only possible way it happened. It's totally faith based. If a Liberal Christian tells me that I'm a simpleton for believing that a virgin can give birth, well, ok. It doesn't matter. My faith lies within the text, not with what someone else thinks.
 
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I am not surprised that there are "liberal Christians" who accept the behavior of the world and believe that science knows truth. The conditioning that has taken place around the world has been effective. It is especially effective on young people. I have a mixed-race family member who enrolled in a college nearby, and her attitude about family members of one color changed radically because of the lessons taught there. She started believing that her "social scientist" at college told her. After all, the professor was in a position of authority, right? Just like a minister? I was really happy when she realized how that professor was totally wrong.

God's truth has not changed, but it is still being misunderstood and altered by the world in which we live. This supposed "fundamentalism" is the product of years of reading-but-not-understanding and trusting man. Those who expect man to tell the truth of things can be wildly deceived. Even scientists change their findings years later when they find that they didn't really understand, either.

But, for young people, needing to fit in with their peer group is a pressure that we grow out of with age and wisdom. However, those young people are still accountable to God for the choices they make.
 
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I'd say faith in one's dentist is different than faith in the God. Praying for the God to guide the dentist's hands can't be a bad thing.

I'd say the extant manuscripts have equal authority to scripture. Some commentaries & books may as well, depending on topic and how it's presented.

Anything that rejects the scriptures as the inspired word of God is suspect. However, a caveat, there are extant manuscripts & bible translations that have been jacked w/ by men, so you have to be careful.

I haven't really thought of studying & believing the scriptures as being something that simpletons engage their time with. This is an odd notion that I haven't really come across.

For example, I believe in the virgin birth of Jesus. I believe it was a miracle, since this is the only possible way it happened. It's totally faith based. If a Liberal Christian tells me that I'm a simpleton for believing that a virgin can give birth, well, ok. It doesn't matter. My faith lies within the text, not with what someone else thinks.
Bvenski, you seem to have always been a man to seek out the truth. I would suggest that you check out the beliefs of liberal Christianity. I have , and have been sharing what I learned with this forum. This is in accordance with, Ephesians 5:11
 

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I just briefly read up on Liberal Christianity. It appears that some of this flavor reject Jesus's miracles, that the God performed through him, which are recorded in the gospels. I can't get on board with that. For example, if Lazarus wasn't raised from the dead by Jesus, after 4 days, then the whole Gospel of John is suspect. Lazarus being raised is clearly not a metaphor, but some Liberal Christians would argue that it is. It just sounds too messy, like no, Jesus did NOT walk on water, etc. Thomas Jefferson didn't like Jesus's miracles either. Nothing is too difficult for the God, including performing miracles through people, like Moses, Jesus, Paul, etc.
 

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Liberals also deny the virgin birth along with miracles. Just think, no virgin birth would mean Jesus was not the son of GOD. The reason for their denial is that science proves these things to be impossible. Liberals also accept every sexual perversion because they are modern thinkers believing the true faith must keep up with changes in society.
 

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Every sexual perversion? Even pedos and beastiality? Come on, that's nasty.
 

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Liberal Christianity​


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Liberal Christianity, also known as liberal theology and historically as Christian Modernism (see Catholic modernism and Fundamentalist–Modernist controversy),[1] is a movement that interprets Christian teaching by taking into consideration modern knowledge, science and ethics. It emphasizes the importance of reason and experience over doctrinal authority. Liberal Christians view their theology as an alternative to both atheistic rationalism and theologies based on traditional interpretations of external authority, such as the Bible or sacred tradition.[2][3][4]

Liberal theology grew out of the Enlightenment's rationalism and the Romanticism of the 18th and 19th centuries. By the late 19th and early 20th centuries, it was characterized by an acceptance of Darwinian evolution, use of modern biblical criticism, and participation in the Social Gospel movement.[5] This was also the period when liberal theology was most dominant within the Protestant churches. Liberal theology's influence declined with the rise of neo-orthodoxy in the 1930s and with liberation theology in the 1960s.[6] Catholic forms of liberal theology emerged in the late 19th century. By the 21st century, liberal Christianity had become an ecumenical tradition, including both Protestants and Catholics.[7]

In the context of theology, liberal does not refer to political liberalism, and it should also be distinguished from progressive Christianity.[1]


Liberal Protestantism​

Liberal Protestantism developed in the 19th century out of a perceived need to adapt Christianity to a modern intellectual context. With the acceptance of Charles Darwin's theory of natural selection, some traditional Christian beliefs, such as parts of the Genesis creation narrative, became difficult to defend. Unable to ground faith exclusively in an appeal to scripture or the person of Jesus Christ, liberals, according to theologian and intellectual historian Alister McGrath, "sought to anchor that faith in common human experience, and interpret it in ways that made sense within the modern worldview."[8] Beginning in Germany, liberal theology was influenced by several strands of thought, including the Enlightenment's high view of human reason and Pietism's emphasis on religious experience and interdenominational tolerance.[9]

The sources of religious authority recognized by liberal Protestants differed from conservative Protestants. Traditional Protestants understood the Bible to be uniquely authoritative (sola scriptura); all doctrine, teaching and the church itself derive authority from it.[10] A traditional Protestant could therefore affirm that "what Scripture says, God says."[11] Liberal Christians rejected the doctrine of biblical inerrancy or infallibility,[12] which they saw as the idolatry (fetishism) of the Bible.[13] Instead, liberals sought to understand the Bible through modern biblical criticism, such as historical criticism, that began to be used in the late 1700s to ask if biblical accounts were based on older texts or whether the Gospels recorded the actual words of Jesus.[9] The use of these methods of biblical interpretation led liberals to conclude that "none of the New Testament writings can be said to be apostolic in the sense in which it has been traditionally held to be so".[14] This conclusion made sola scriptura an untenable position. In its place, liberals identified the historical Jesus as the "real canon of the Christian church".[15]

German theologian William Wrede wrote that "Like every other real science, New Testament Theology has its goal simply in itself, and is totally indifferent to all dogma and Systematic Theology". Theologian Hermann Gunkel affirmed that "the spirit of historical investigation has now taken the place of a traditional doctrine of inspiration".[16] Episcopal bishop John Shelby Spong declared that the literal interpretation of the Bible is heresy.[17][18]

The two groups also disagreed on the role of experience in confirming truth claims. Traditional Protestants believed scripture and revelation always confirmed human experience and reason. For liberal Protestants, there were two ultimate sources of religious authority: the Christian experience of God as revealed in Jesus Christ and universal human experience. In other words, only an appeal to common human reason and experience could confirm the truth claims of Christianity.[19]

In general, liberal Christians are not concerned with the presence of biblical errors or contradictions.[12] Liberals abandoned or reinterpreted traditional doctrines in light of recent knowledge. For example, the traditional doctrine of original sin was rejected for being derived from Augustine of Hippo, whose views on the New Testament were believed to have been distorted by his involvement with Manichaeism. Christology was also reinterpreted. Liberals stressed Christ's humanity, and his divinity became "an affirmation of Jesus exemplifying qualities which humanity as a whole could hope to emulate".[8]

Liberal Christians sought to elevate Jesus' humane teachings as a standard for a world civilization freed from cultic traditions and traces of traditionally pagan types of belief in the supernatural.[20] As a result, liberal Christians placed less emphasis on miraculous events associated with the life of Jesus than on his teachings.[21] The debate over whether a belief in miracles was mere superstition or essential to accepting the divinity of Christ constituted a crisis within the 19th-century church, for which theological compromises were sought.[22][pages needed] Some liberals prefer to read Jesus' miracles as metaphorical narratives for understanding the power of God.[23][better source needed] Not all theologians with liberal inclinations reject the possibility of miracles, but many reject the polemicism that denial or affirmation entails.[24]

Nineteenth-century liberalism had an optimism about the future in which humanity would continue to achieve greater progress.[8] This optimistic view of history was sometimes interpreted as building the kingdom of God in the world.[9]


Development​

The roots of liberal Christianity go back to the 16th century when Christians such as Erasmus and the Deists attempted to remove what they believed were the superstitious elements from Christianity and "leave only its essential teachings (rational love of God and humanity)".[21]

Reformed theologian Friedrich Schleiermacher (1768–1834) is often considered the father of liberal Protestantism.[9] In response to Romanticism's disillusionment with Enlightenment rationalism, Schleiermacher argued that God could only be experienced through feeling, not reason. In Schleiermacher's theology, religion is a feeling of absolute dependence on God. Humanity is conscious of its own sin and its need of redemption, which can only be accomplished by Jesus Christ. For Schleiermacher, faith is experienced within a faith community, never in isolation. This meant that theology always reflects a particular religious context, which has opened Schleirmacher to charges of relativism.[25]

Albrecht Ritschl (1822–1889) disagreed with Schleiermacher's emphasis on feeling. He thought that religious belief should be based on history, specifically the historical events of the New Testament.[26] When studied as history without regard to miraculous events, Ritschl believed the New Testament affirmed Jesus' divine mission. He rejected doctrines such as the virgin birth of Jesus and the Trinity.[27] The Christian life for Ritschl was devoted to ethical activity and development, so he understood doctrines to be value judgments rather than assertions of facts.[26] Influenced by the philosophy of Immanuel Kant, Ritschl viewed "religion as the triumph of the spirit (or moral agent) over humanity's natural origins and environment."[27] Ritschl's ideas would be taken up by others, and Ritschlianism would remain an important theological school within German Protestantism until World War I. Prominent followers of Ritschl include Wilhelm Herrmann, Julius Kaftan and Adolf von Harnack.[26]


What is liberal Christian theology?​


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In liberal Christian teaching, which is not Christian at all, man’s reason is stressed and is treated as the final authority. Liberal theologians seek to reconcile Christianity with secular science and modern thinking. In doing so, they treat science as all-knowing and the Bible as fable-laden and false. Genesis’ early chapters are reduced to poetry or fantasy, having a message, but not to be taken literally (in spite of Jesus’ having spoken of those early chapters in literal terms). Mankind is not seen as totally depraved, and thus liberal theologians have an optimistic view of the future of mankind. The social gospel is also emphasized, while the inability of fallen man to fulfill it is denied. Whether a person is saved from his sin and its penalty in hell is no longer the issue; the main thing is how man treats his fellow man. “Love” of our fellow man becomes the defining issue. As a result of this “reasoning” by liberal theologians, the following doctrines are taught by liberal quasi-Christian theologians:

1) The Bible is not “God-breathed” and has errors. Because of this belief, man (the liberal theologians) must determine which teachings are correct and which are not. Belief that the Bible is “inspired” (in that word’s original meaning) by God is only held by simpletons. This directly contradicts 2 Timothy 3:16-17: “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

2) The virgin birth of Christ is a mythological false teaching. This directly contradicts Isaiah 7:14 and Luke 2.

3) Jesus did not rise again from the grave in bodily form. This contradicts the resurrection accounts in all four Gospels and the entire New Testament.

4) Jesus was a good moral teacher, but His followers and their followers have taken liberties with the history of His life (there were no “supernatural” miracles), with the Gospels having been written many years later and merely ascribed to the early disciples in order to give greater weight to their teachings. This contradicts the 2 Timothy passage and the doctrine of the supernatural preservation of the Scriptures by God.

5) Hell is not real. Man is not lost in sin and is not doomed to some future judgment without a relationship with Christ through faith. Man can help himself; no sacrificial death by Christ is necessary since a loving God would not send people to such a place as hell and since man is not born in sin. This contradicts Jesus Himself, who declared Himself to be the Way to God, through His atoning death (John 14:6).

6) Most of the human authors of the Bible are not who they are traditionally believed to be. For instance, they believe that Moses did not write the first five books of the Bible. The book of Daniel had two authors because there is no way that the detailed “prophecies” of the later chapters could have been known ahead of time; they must have been written after the fact. The same thinking is carried over to the New Testament books. These ideas contradict not only the Scriptures but historical documents which verify the existence of all the people whom the liberals deny.

7) The most important thing for man to do is to “love” his neighbor. What is the loving thing to do in any situation is not what the Bible says is good but what the liberal theologians decide is good. This denies the doctrine of total depravity, which states that man is incapable of doing anything good and loving (Jeremiah 17:9) until He has been redeemed by Christ and given a new nature (2 Corinthians 5:17).

There are many pronouncements of Scripture against those who would deny the deity of Christ (2 Peter 2:1)—which liberal Christianity does. Scripture also denounces those who would preach a different gospel from what was preached by the apostles (Galatians 1:8)—which is what the liberal theologians do in denying the necessity of Christ’s atoning death and preaching a social gospel in its place. The Bible condemns those who call good evil and evil good (Isaiah 5:20)—which some liberal churches do by embracing homosexuality as an alternative lifestyle while the Bible repeatedly condemns its practice.

Scripture speaks against those who would cry “peace, peace” when there is no peace (Jeremiah 6:14)—which liberal theologians do by saying that man can attain peace with God apart from Christ’s sacrifice on the cross and that man need not worry about a future judgment before God. The Word of God speaks of a time when men will have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof (2 Timothy 3:5)—which is what liberal theology does in that it says that there is some inner goodness in man that does not require a rebirth by the Holy Spirit through faith in Christ. And it speaks against those who would serve idols instead of the one true God (1 Chronicles 16:26)—which liberal Christianity does in that it creates a false god according to its own liking rather than worshiping God as He is described in the whole of the Bible.


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