Devotional WE HAVE A LOT OF ISMS

WE HAVE A-LOT OF ISMS


Legalism Universalism Catholicism Armstrongism Pentecostalism Trinitarianism Binitarianism Unitarianism Jehovahs Witnessesism Mormonism All Protestantism ETC ETC ETC


There are a lot more “isms” that are in the world but all of them have one thing in common, they are all lies. Isms are carnal Satanically inspired ideas that are used to deceive.


The common thing is that all of them were the product of men or women of carnal minds. The only "ism" that is true is Yahwehism or Christism.
If Yahweh through Christ did not teach you then you are deceived. If you read books written by carnal men about their particular "ism" you are not taught by the Holy Spirit, and not even a spiritual babe, you fall for the lies contained in them , the “isms”. Mike Vinson is an excellent example of a carnal minded man, who does preach some truth on his website, he also has some of the most blasphemous writings I have ever seen. If you are a babe in Christ do not read his material as it is very convincing and highly deceptive.

There are Uni's Bi's and Tri's One, two or three . Even though the Uni's are right about only one GOD they too have some serious issues that need resolved. The problem all these churches have is they are stuck in their ways and have stopped growing and view any constructive criticism as Satan the devil. They all have closed minds and have reached a plateau in their growth. Of course they all have a human leader.

Herbert Armstrong taught a mixture of both covenants but focused mostly on the law and had no idea of what grace is. His teachings made sense to the carnal mind. Armstrong was a false Apostle, false Prophet and a deceitful worker. There must be over 50 splinter groups that have come out from Armstrongism.

The Pope
in the Catholic Church is just a man who thinks he is far more than what he is, a demonically influenced man leading the eldest daughter of the harlot of Babylon. Virtually everything that is taught by this church is false. It is no wonder that the churches that came out during the reformation contain much of the false Catholic beliefs.

Protestantism is a religious buffet, a smorgasbord, offering all kinds of false worship. For carnal people there is probably something that you will like.

Pentecostals just like having a good time . Their services usually have live bands and singing with the members waving hands and being drunk in the spirit or perhaps experiencing holy laughter. Sometimes they roll around on the floor thus acquiring the name holy rollers.

Liberalism
is truly an anything goes church. They will accept people that traditionally are rejected by mainstream. This church is especially popular with homosexuals and other types of sexual perverts. This church also disbelieves other doctrines and denies miracles. Basically you can do anything you want and still “go to heaven”.

Universalism says everybody will receive salvation and the people not saved by Christs sacrifice will be saved by the lake of fire. They do not not understand the unpardonable sin. They say GOD created all sentient life evil both angels and humans. Then they say that GOD desires to show HIS great power by giving salvation to everyone and some of this belief system even give salvation to Satan and the demons. They, like all other false churches, do have some truth but like all false churches more lie than truth.

Jehovahs Witnesses have some truth but believe Jesus was the angel Michael and in group favoritism concerning the 144,000 denying the bread and wine to all but those considered anointed that get to go to heaven while the remaining members are on Earth. They also have had many failed prophetic predictions.

Yes, everyone has their isms but as for me I have GODISM and Christism only, everything else is schism.
 

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What about realism? 😃

“If you read books written by carnal men about their particular "ism" you are not taught by the Holy Spirit”

So do you say we can learn the truth by reading only the Bible ?
We can learn from each other, we rely on dictionaries, etc.
Doesn’t the Holy Spirit teach us to discern truth and lie in what others say or write?
 
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What about realism? 😃

“If you read books written by carnal men about their particular "ism" you are not taught by the Holy Spirit”

So do you say we can learn the truth by reading only the Bible ?
We can learn from each other, we rely on dictionaries, etc.
Doesn’t the Holy Spirit teach us to discern truth and lie in what others say or write?
If the Apostle Paul and Apollos could not give the increase, the understanding of the gospel they preached, then no other could either. Even people who are saints that speak to each other it is the Holy Spirit of almighty GOD that gives any understanding. John 6:45 , John 14:26 , John 12:16 without the Holy Spirit no one would no anything. This is giving GOD all the glory and none to ourselves or anyone or thing else. 1 John 4:6 , John 8:47 , Luke 10:22 , John 15:26 1 Corinthians 2:11
We have no works, power or abilities of our own and apart from GOD and Jesus we can do NOTHING. Would you read books by the Jehovahs Witnesses, the Pope, Benny Hinn or John Hagee ? What more could any man write to add to what has been written ? Yes, I use only the scriptures because I know and believe that they were written by men truly inspired by GOD.
 

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If the Apostle Paul and Apollos could not give the increase, the understanding of the gospel they preached, then no other could either. Even people who are saints that speak to each other it is the Holy Spirit of almighty GOD that gives any understanding. John 6:45 , John 14:26 , John 12:16 without the Holy Spirit no one would no anything. This is giving GOD all the glory and none to ourselves or anyone or thing else. 1 John 4:6 , John 8:47 , Luke 10:22 , John 15:26 1 Corinthians 2:11
We have no works, power or abilities of our own and apart from GOD and Jesus we can do NOTHING. Would you read books by the Jehovahs Witnesses, the Pope, Benny Hinn or John Hagee ? What more could any man write to add to what has been written ? Yes, I use only the scriptures because I know and believe that they were written by men truly inspired by GOD.
I believe I can learn from others, that God gives me discernment what to believe and what to reject.
If I’m going to rely on myself or on others I will be misled. (James 1:14)
Col.2:6-7
 

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You have confirmed my stand. If anyone has not been taught by GOD through Jesus Christ then what they know is subject to falsehood. Never put your trust in any man, not me or anyone else. Jeremiah 17:5
GOD speaks to us through Jesus Christ period, not through any man. James 1:14 is speaking of our own personal sins, not how we receive divine guidance, knowledge and truth. 1 Corinthians 2:12 , 1 John 2:27
John 14:26 does not say that saints receive spiritual truth from each other but from GOD. If you have had GOD reveal a truth to you, you go and tell another saint what GOD taught you, you will not be the one who teaches, the Holy Spirit must open the mind of the one you spoke with to see the same thing GOD showed you. In this way GOD receives all the glory and not ourselves. If we glory we glory in the Lord. I do not care who it is or what is written GOD through Jesus is the ONLY WAY anyone will understand.
 
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LeeB: “GOD through Jesus is the ONLY WAY anyone will understand”

🌸 I couldn’t agree with you more on that!

But I don’t agree with your position on how God works. God is not limited.

I once heard a story of a muslim who - reading the Quran - was drawn to Jesus.
God can use everything to help people getting to know him! Luke 19:40

I cited James 1:14 to say that are own personal desires can lead to the sin of too much trust in yourself or others. This would block us - at that moment/topic - from Gods Light.

We escaped a cult, but we can not escape ourselves. Since no one has The Truth yet, everyone has to change position now and then. The views you had to change weren’t from God. They were from yourself or others.
If you never change position, you are misleading yourself!

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LeeB: “GOD through Jesus is the ONLY WAY anyone will understand”

🌸 I couldn’t agree with you more on that!

But I don’t agree with your position on how God works. God is not limited.

I once heard a story of a muslim who - reading the Quran - was drawn to Jesus.
God can use everything to help people getting to know him! Luke 19:40

I cited James 1:14 to say that are own personal desires can lead to the sin of too much trust in yourself or others. This would block us - at that moment/topic - from Gods Light.

We escaped a cult, but we can not escape ourselves. Since no one has The Truth yet, everyone has to change position now and then. The views you had to change weren’t from God. They were from yourself or others.
If you never change position, you are misleading yourself!

🌸🙋‍♀️
Jesus said, “you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free” , it is only by the Holy Spirit of the FATHER through Christ that anyone knows the truth. Christians that come to Christ must die in a symbolic watery grave. That is dying to our old selves to become a new creation in Christ. This is the symbolism in baptism. 2 Corinthians 5:14 , Romans 6:6,13 , Galatians 2:20 , Colossians 3:3 We can do nothing but respond to the call of GOD who draws us to HIS son then we are chosen. John 6:44 Jesus is the vine and we are the branches and anyone with or without Jesus can do nothing. John 15:5, John 15:16 Is it not GOD who calls and chooses ? Romans 9:14,15,16,17,18 Ephesians 1:5 We were predestined therefore how could anything be by our own selves ?
Paul , before his conversion, was murdering Christians did he change himself ? Peter and Andrew were fishermen and Matthew a tax collector. None of these changed themselves. Philippians 2:13 , 2 Chronicles 30:12, Romans 12:3, 1 Corinthians 15:10, Isaiah 26:12,
We must escape ourselves but cannot do it by our own efforts. GOD must draw a person to HIMSELF through Jesus. John 6:44,65 Jeremiah 31:3, John 5:44 If not for what GOD did you and I we would still be in those cults. Paul would have killed even more Christians, Peter and Andrew would have caught many more fish and Matthew much more in taxes.
 

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I’m sorry LeeB, I feel like we are thinking on the same line, but then again we are on parallel roads 🤷‍♀️

Let’s agree to disagree on this one.

🌸🙋‍♀️
 
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I’m sorry LeeB, I feel like we are thinking on the same line, but then again we are on parallel roads 🤷‍♀️

Let’s agree to disagree on this one.

🌸🙋‍♀️
OK Petunia. Keep searching, asking, seeking and knocking. If you ever want to talk about anything I am available.
 

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Even though you two have completed this discussion through "agree to disagree," I just got back from a trip to see family in another state without my laptop. Hence, my absence.

In this thread, I see two people who are on the same track, but their trains are shaped differently.

My growth as a follower of Jesus and faith in the only true God Yahweh, I have learned that we do not come to understanding through the same pathways. I needed experiences based on who I am in order to reach God-given belief. Others do it in a different way. Its a good thing that Yahweh calls us and then has patience while we grow.

I love small group bible discussions. It is the resulting information that I ponder as I wait on God to sort them out for me. I used other historical data, other studies and Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek dictionaries, etc. to help me piece out my thoughts, But, I am a technical man by nature. Maybe that is what made me slower to learn and took me years to understand.

However we reach the point where we "hear" God, the end result is a belief that stands firm. All other thoughts await the truth. Until then, they remain notes for discussion if we are blessed with the presence of others to share those ideas. Without the body of believers seeking truth and the resulting discussions, I would stagnate. Yahweh knows me, so he teaches me in a way that works well for me. Thank Yahweh, I have been blessed.

I appreciate this thread. It is an example of how my previous bible studies have gone.
 
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Even though you two have completed this discussion through "agree to disagree," I just got back from a trip to see family in another state without my laptop. Hence, my absence.

In this thread, I see two people who are on the same track, but their trains are shaped differently.

My growth as a follower of Jesus and faith in the only true God Yahweh, I have learned that we do not come to understanding through the same pathways. I needed experiences based on who I am in order to reach God-given belief. Others do it in a different way. Its a good thing that Yahweh calls us and then has patience while we grow.

I love small group bible discussions. It is the resulting information that I ponder as I wait on God to sort them out for me. I used other historical data, other studies and Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek dictionaries, etc. to help me piece out my thoughts, But, I am a technical man by nature. Maybe that is what made me slower to learn and took me years to understand.

However we reach the point where we "hear" God, the end result is a belief that stands firm. All other thoughts await the truth. Until then, they remain notes for discussion if we are blessed with the presence of others to share those ideas. Without the body of believers seeking truth and the resulting discussions, I would stagnate. Yahweh knows me, so he teaches me in a way that works well for me. Thank Yahweh, I have been blessed.

I appreciate this thread. It is an example of how my previous bible studies have gone.
1 Corinthians 14:29 This is how a church meeting was to be. The pastor or minister was only present to insure order according to Paul’s instructions. Today the same applies. The difference is that today all of GODS people are prophets. Numbers 11:29 GOD granted the wish of Moses in these latter days.
 
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Hi Outcast,

Glad you’re back, sharing your balanced view!

As you say, Yahweh knows us, so he teaches us in a way that works well for us, we all have our own path, but the end result is a belief that stands firm.

I wholeheartedly agree!

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WE HAVE A-LOT OF ISMS


Legalism Universalism Catholicism Armstrongism Pentecostalism Trinitarianism Binitarianism Unitarianism Jehovahs Witnessesism Mormonism All Protestantism ETC ETC ETC


There are a lot more “isms” that are in the world but all of them have one thing in common, they are all lies. Isms are carnal Satanically inspired ideas that are used to deceive.


The common thing is that all of them were the product of men or women of carnal minds. The only "ism" that is true is Yahwehism or Christism.
If Yahweh through Christ did not teach you then you are deceived. If you read books written by carnal men about their particular "ism" you are not taught by the Holy Spirit, and not even a spiritual babe, you fall for the lies contained in them , the “isms”. Mike Vinson is an excellent example of a carnal minded man, who does preach some truth on his website, he also has some of the most blasphemous writings I have ever seen. If you are a babe in Christ do not read his material as it is very convincing and highly deceptive.

There are Uni's Bi's and Tri's One, two or three . Even though the Uni's are right about only one GOD they too have some serious issues that need resolved. The problem all these churches have is they are stuck in their ways and have stopped growing and view any constructive criticism as Satan the devil. They all have closed minds and have reached a plateau in their growth. Of course they all have a human leader.

Herbert Armstrong taught a mixture of both covenants but focused mostly on the law and had no idea of what grace is. His teachings made sense to the carnal mind. Armstrong was a false Apostle, false Prophet and a deceitful worker. There must be over 50 splinter groups that have come out from Armstrongism.

The Pope in the Catholic Church is just a man who thinks he is far more than what he is, a demonically influenced man leading the eldest daughter of the harlot of Babylon. Virtually everything that is taught by this church is false. It is no wonder that the churches that came out during the reformation contain much of the false Catholic beliefs.

Protestantism is a religious buffet, a smorgasbord, offering all kinds of false worship. For carnal people there is probably something that you will like.

Pentecostals just like having a good time . Their services usually have live bands and singing with the members waving hands and being drunk in the spirit or perhaps experiencing holy laughter. Sometimes they roll around on the floor thus acquiring the name holy rollers.

Liberalism is truly an anything goes church. They will accept people that traditionally are rejected by mainstream. This church is especially popular with homosexuals and other types of sexual perverts. This church also disbelieves other doctrines and denies miracles. Basically you can do anything you want and still “go to heaven”.

Universalism says everybody will receive salvation and the people not saved by Christs sacrifice will be saved by the lake of fire. They do not not understand the unpardonable sin. They say GOD created all sentient life evil both angels and humans. Then they say that GOD desires to show HIS great power by giving salvation to everyone and some of this belief system even give salvation to Satan and the demons. They, like all other false churches, do have some truth but like all false churches more lie than truth.

Jehovahs Witnesses have some truth but believe Jesus was the angel Michael and in group favoritism concerning the 144,000 denying the bread and wine to all but those considered anointed that get to go to heaven while the remaining members are on Earth. They also have had many failed prophetic predictions.

Yes, everyone has their isms but as for me I have GODISM and Christism only, everything else is schism.
Don't forget fundamentalism—which you're clearly beholden to, if this post is anything to go by.
Oh, I almost forgot—fideism seems to be the bedrock of the ideas expressed in this post.
Those are two isms you didn't realise were hiding behind, nay, undergirding, your rhetoric. I'm glad I could help.
 

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Colossians 2:8 1 Timothy 6:20 All spiritual knowledge is from GOD by revelation.

1 Corinthians 2:11 You cannot be of help to anyone. I have a helper you do not acknowledge or know. To quote a very famous person, John 8:55
 
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Don't forget fundamentalism—which you're clearly beholden to, if this post is anything to go by.
Oh, I almost forgot—fideism seems to be the bedrock of the ideas expressed in this post.
Those are two isms you didn't realise were hiding behind, nay, undergirding, your rhetoric. I'm glad I could help.
I think you have missed a target there, amigo. I see no fideism in LeeB,s statements. Perhaps you are not actually searching the scripture references that he offers?

Apostle Paul has said that people are without excuse because the evidence of God surrounds them.

Romans 1:20 ESV
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

That being the case, searching for reason should be the result of seeing God's handiwork. It should cause people to search. Yes, God gives faith, but it comes with searching - not just getting a "feeling." Brother LeeB uses reasoning to arrive at his beliefs.

Inversely, I find that many use bible commentaries and claim that they "searched" the scriptures for truth. The fact is that it was not the scriptures that they actually reasoned with - it was the opinions of theologians who told them what to think. Many do not follow scripture - they follow man.
 
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I think you have missed a target there, amigo. I see no fideism in LeeB,s statements. Perhaps you are not actually searching the scripture references that he offers?

Apostle Paul has said that people are without excuse because the evidence of God surrounds them.

Romans 1:20 ESV
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

That being the case, searching for reason should be the result of seeing God's handiwork. It should cause people to search. Yes, God gives faith, but it comes with searching - not just getting a "feeling." Brother LeeB uses reasoning to arrive at his beliefs.

Inversely, I find that many use bible commentaries and claim that they "searched" the scriptures for truth. The fact is that it was not the scriptures that they actually reasoned with - it was the opinions of theologians who told them what to think. Many do not follow scripture - they follow man.
Outcast, William follows men. As a liberal he places his trust in science and modern thinking. William has his motives for doing this that he hides from everyone here except me, I know his motive but have not exposed him. At the age of 27 William has it all figured out and there is no convincing him otherwise. You and I have been Christians longer than William has been alive. William is a liberal and his belief system promises liberty. 2 Peter 2:19KJV
 
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Outcast, William follows men. As a liberal he places his trust in science and modern thinking. William has his motives for doing this that he hides from everyone here except me, I know his motive but have not exposed him. At the age of 27 William has it all figured out and there is no convincing him otherwise. You and I have been Christians longer than William has been alive. William is a liberal and his belief system promises liberty. 2 Peter 2:19KJV
Yes, I am a liberal—freedom-loving & committed to liberation—and proud of it! I do put my trust in science just as you put your trust in a dentist anytime you visit—because the dentist knows his stuff! And I'm modern and proud of it; I can't be anything else—I was born in '97 after all ;). In good Freudian fashion, thank goodness, you've psychoanalysed me and dug out my hidden motives. Please, for the love of God, expose me!
While I'd disagree and say that at 27 I don't have it all figured out, you're right about this one thing: there's no convincing me to accept fundamentalist biblicism—which is what my complaint has been against all along!
I don't know why you think "liberal" and "Christian" are antithetical, but, either way, I'm not interested in your brand of Christianity. I'm quite happy to walk away from Christianity if it's anything like you describe.
 

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You have exposed yourself. All your knowledge is carnal, you compare spiritual faith to faith in a dentist. I would never make any attempt to do anything concerning you as only GOD is able to enlighten anyone. All your trust is misplaced and in the direction you are going you will never know that until over a thousand years pass. You are unrepentant and full of pride and by your own admission have no place here among people not interested in your brand of Christianity.
 

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I would encourage everyone here on Simply Christian to very carefully examine the comments made by William. Even though everyone here is in a different phase of growth there are yet basic truths we have in common. What William has embraced throws out the foundation and he attempts to build on the wind. If you have no idea of what liberal Christianity is I would strongly recommend that you look into it then perhaps you will better understand.