General "Godly Mockery" "Ungodly Unitarians" "Liberal Rationalists" by Anthony Rogers

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He expounds on some interesting points about Psalms 110:1 and is "willing to debate ANYONE". Lol. In the fight game it's called "ducking" and "hand picking opponents" when you WONT go at "anyone".
 

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Yeah, Mr. Rogers believes he is a tough guy. He called me a Stoic once, ha. Carlos debated him once.
 
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Watch "DEBATE: Did Paul Teach Jesus Is God? (Anthony Rogers vs. Carlos Xavier)" on YouTube

I thought Carlos did pretty good.
 
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Yeah, I stayed up until about 3am around 3 weeks ago (much to my stupidity) and watched the debate he had with Dale Tuggy. He constantly spoke over Dale when Dale was answering his questions. It showed to me a lot of insecurity on his part. He obviously tried to ruffle Dale's feathers. I think it was his tactic from the outset. I thought Dale did a pretty good job holding his nerve although you could see him getting a little upset. Any normal human would have under the circumstances. One other thing, if you watch this video (I know it's a long one) check out the fake grin Anthony Rodgers displays. I think that's another one of his ploys. If I wasn't a Christian, I would love to knock it off his face


 
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Yeah, I stayed up until about 3am around 3 weeks ago (much to my stupidity) and watched the debate he had with Dale Tuggy. He constantly spoke over Dale when Dale was answering his questions. It showed to me a lot of insecurity on his part. He obviously tried to ruffle Dale's feathers. I think it was his tactic from the outset. I thought Dale did a pretty good job holding his nerve although you could see him getting a little upset. Any normal human would have under the circumstances. One other thing, if you watch this video (I know it's a long one) check out the fake grin Anthony Rodgers displays. I think that's another one of his ploys. If I wasn't a Christian, I would love to knock it off his face

Oh snap! I had no idea Dr. Tuggy had a debate recently. I will definitely listen to this on my drives into work & back next week
 

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Watch "DEBATE: Did Paul Teach Jesus Is God? (Anthony Rogers vs. Carlos Xavier)" on YouTube

I thought Carlos did pretty good.

I'm yet to see that but I'm thinking Carlos is at a disadvantage from the start seeing that David Winger is the moderator (Pro Trinitarian)
 

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Watch "DEBATE: Did Paul Teach Jesus Is God? (Anthony Rogers vs. Carlos Xavier)" on YouTube

I thought Carlos d
Watch "DEBATE: Did Paul Teach Jesus Is God? (Anthony Rogers vs. Carlos Xavier)" on YouTube

I thought Carlos did pretty good.

I'm more than half way through. I have to say, very good job Carlos. You've brought up some great points and as usual, pretty lame defences coming from Rogers
 

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he unfortunately does not know how dangerous what he says is, when he quotes matt 28:19, he does not realize that no apostles ever baptized in the triune formula, but always int the name of Yeshua. With this he calls all the apotles liars, so now throw your bible away because not one word of what they said is according to Yeshua and they are all false apostles. And yet again if he says that Yeshua's name is Yehovah then he would have to answer

Rev 3:12 “He who overcomes, I shall make him a supporting post in the Dwelling Place of My Elohim, and he shall by no means go out. And I shall write on him the Name of My Elohim and the name of the city of My Elohim, the renewed Yerushalayim, which comes down out of the heaven from My Elohim, and My renewed Name. (TS98)

what is to note about this verse is that it is Yeshua's words and he says that 1 he has a god four times whic implies that if he has a god that is his God then that god is above him and if he is God then trinitarians have two Gods and even worse note the end where Yeshua says that we will receive the name of HIS GOD and Yehua's new name what?

God's name does not change but Yeshua has a new name, well according to him this cannot be since they all share the same name but Yeshua is specific here the name of his God does not change and his does and then trinitarians really hate me when i tell the the new name of Yeshua, the lamb of God, oh boy
 

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the problem with anthony dale and carlos is they still hold trinitarian interpretations of the bible and are going themselves into muddy waters, one of the reasons i disconnected from them, hope they will stop before it's too late the road is narrow to the lord, hope there on it, but now that seems gloomy
 

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the problem with anthony dale and carlos is they still hold trinitarian interpretations of the bible and are going themselves into muddy waters, one of the reasons i disconnected from them, hope they will stop before it's too late the road is narrow to the lord, hope there on it, but now that seems gloomy
Dale & Carlos still hold trinitarian interpretations of the Bible? Say what?
 

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ya they still hold trinitarian interpretations in many cases, as do alot of unitarians like preexistence, prayer to Yeshua the prologue of John they still hold to some trinitarian interpretations, for instance how is the messiah from Judah? what do you think they will answer something completely different than trinitarians or something very close to trinitarian interpretation
 

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Oh, I see what you are getting at. Not every interpretation by trinitarians is incorrect.
 

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actually i think there all wrong, they on the other hand don't , like there Yeshua strory of his birth i don't believe, their's is close to trinitarianism mine is far from it, but then so are many of my understandings of scripture.
 

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How is trinity world's preexisting "God the Son" flying down from heaven and going into the womb of Mary, to get himself born, considered close to Biblical Unitarians belief that God the Father caused the virgin Mary to become pregnant, via His holy spirit, so that she would give birth to the unique, human son of God, the second Adam?
 

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still trying to make something from God instead of a son of David, but many unitarains do believe in preexistence and when you start putting it together it is because they believe this created Yeshua being in the womb of mary, one fallacy just leads to another and then you go the way of the adventists from unitarian to trinitarian
 

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Matt 1:20 But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. (ESV2011)

God says Joseph is the son of David
 

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Oh, you think Joseph is Jesus's daddy, not God the Father, yes? Both Joseph & Mary's bloodlines have been traced to king David, they are distantly related to each other.
 

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I would, but I'm not a scholar or a theologian. I watched presentations on this in the past. They are on YouTube.