To me all of the scriptures you cite are about God's holy spirit which I understand to be his personal presence and power. It is personified as wisdom and his word among other things. It is our creators power which has been with him always.
That holy spirit accomplished
his word. In Genesis it was the creation of the earth, humans, animals etc. In John it was the bringing forth of his son and the promised Messiah Jesus. God said let there be light and there was light. God said he was bring forth Jesus and his holy spirit overshadowed Mary and Jesus was miraculously begotten. God's word has always been with him and BECAME Jesus when the time was right.
The scriptures in Proverbs are referring to God's wisdom which has always been with him as well and to me is a facet of his holy spirit. We know for a fact when reading the genesis account that it was
holy spirit going to and fro. That we can prove with scripture. Thinking it was Jesus is making assumptions to fit your theology IMHO. We can prove holy spirit was there. Genesis says that is the case.
Genesis 1:1-3
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the
Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And
God said (his word), “Let there be light,” and there was light.
God spoke things into existence. He spoke the heavens and earth into existence via his holy spirit. He spoke Jesus into existence via his holy spirit.
Despite the massive popularity of the Bible, many are uncertain about who created the universe. The idea that Jesus was active as agent in the Genesis creation is popular, but is it based on the Bible?
Consider the following scriptures:
Acts 4:24 (the first believers): “With one mind they lifted their voices to God and said, ‘Sovereign Lord, You made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and everything in them.’”
Acts 7:48-50 (Stephen): “The Most High does not live in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says, ‘Heaven is My throne and the earth is My footstool...Was it not My hand that made all these things?’”
Acts 14:15 (Paul and Barnabas): We are "preaching the Gospel to you, telling you to turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them.”
Acts 17:24-26 (Paul): “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth...He Himself gives all people life and breath and all things. And from one man He made every nation of mankind to inhabit the whole earth, determining the times set for them and the fixed limits of the places where they should live.”
Rev. 4:11 (24 elders): “Worthy are You, our Lord and our God, to receive glory and honor and power, because You created all things, and through Your will they existed and were created.”
Rev. 10:6 (an angel): He "swore by Him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and the things in it, the earth and the things in it, and the sea and the things in it.”
Rev. 14:7 (an angel): “Fear God and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come. Worship Him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea, and the springs of water.”
Mark 10:6 (Jesus): “At the beginning of creation, God made them male and female.”
Matt. 19:4 (Jesus): “Have you not read that at the beginning the Creator made them male and female?”
Rom. 11:35-36: “Who has first given to God, that God needs to repay Him? For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things.”
Heb. 2:9-10: “God...for whom and through whom all things exist.”
Heb. 3:4: “The builder of all things is God.”
Heb. 4:3-4: “God's works were accomplished from the foundation of the world...God rested on the seventh day from all His works.”
Heb. 11:3: “By faith we understand that the world was created at
God’s command.”
1 Cor. 8:6: “
There is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we live, and
one lord Jesus Messiah, through whom are all things and through whom we live.”
Col. 1:16: “
For in him [Jesus] [not 'by' him as mistranslated in some versions]
all things in heaven and on earth were created, whether visible or invisible, thrones or powers or rulers or authorities;
all things were created through [not 'by' as mistranslated in some versions]
him and for him.”
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colossians 1:15-20 | Simply Christian]
The Creator is God, the Father. He made everything. He made man and woman. He rested at creation. Jesus came into being when Mary conceived supernaturally. The miraculous conception makes him the Son of God in a special sense (
Luke 1:35).
The Messiah Jesus was the reason for all creation, the occasion for creation, since as the firstborn (preeminent in rank) he is to possess all authority over everything under God. But
God, the Father, the One God (1 Cor. 8:6) is the creator of all things:
Isaiah 44:24: "I am the LORD (YHVH) who made everything, who stretched out the heavens
by Myself and spread out the earth
alone."
