Video What if the Bible you’ve been reading isn’t telling you the full story? video by Power of Wisdom Youtube channel

This was a good one @Gary Burnett thank for sharing. Here is an AI summary from the transcript if it's helpful.
  • Mistranslations can distort core concepts of faith, leading to fundamentally different interpretations of teachings and practices in Christianity. For instance, the original meanings of words like 'Ecclesia' and 'Sheol' convey a sense of community and neutrality, respectively, which contrasts with their institutional and punitive translations.
  • Aside from 'Ecclesia' and 'Sheol,' terms like 'baptism' and 'repentance' have evolved significantly. 'Baptism' shifted from a symbol of complete immersion to various methods, potentially altering its symbolic representation of transformation. Similarly, 'repentance' has changed from a transformative call to a focus on guilt and remorse, impacting how individuals approach their relationship with God.
  • The translation of the Bible has significantly shaped Christian doctrine through the interpretations made by translators, often influenced by the cultural and political contexts in which they were produced. Key terms and concepts have been altered to align with institutional agendas, thus affecting the beliefs and practices of Christianity for centuries.
  • Modern scholars play a critical role in understanding the Bible by employing archaeological findings and linguistic research to uncover the original meanings of texts. Their work aims to address past mistranslations and reveal the deeply rooted spiritual truths of scripture, making it more accessible and relevant to contemporary believers.
  • Individuals can effectively engage in scriptural study within a community by participating in small groups, attending Bible studies, or having conversations with trusted mentors. These interactions create an environment for discussion, questioning, and exploring different perspectives that enhance understanding and application of biblical teachings.
  • Community involvement is vital for spiritual growth as it allows believers to share insights, hold each other accountable, and encourage one another in their faith journeys. The collaboration leads to a richer understanding of scripture and fosters deeper relationships among participants.

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The Impact of Translation on Understanding the Bible 05:42​

"What if the Bible you've been reading for your entire life isn't telling the full story?"
  • The Bible has undergone extensive changes over more than two millennia, influenced by mistranslations, hidden agendas, and human errors. These factors can obscure essential truths that could profoundly impact one's faith.
  • Modern translators are working diligently to revisit and uncover the original meanings of biblical texts, revealing startling insights that can reshape our understanding of key concepts such as church, love, and salvation.

The Meaning of 'Ecclesia' and Its Transformation 06:28​

"In its original context, Ecclesia referred to a gathering, an assembly of people united in purpose."
  • The Greek word 'Ecclesia' is traditionally translated as 'church' in modern Bibles. However, its original meaning indicates a community of believers rather than an institutional structure.
  • This shift in translation from 'Ecclesia' to 'church' has had significant implications, moving the focus from grassroots Christian fellowship to a formalized and hierarchical organization.
  • The realization that 'Ecclesia' was meant to represent an assembly of followers rather than a physical building highlights how translation can alter the foundational understanding of Christianity.

Historical Context and the Council of Nicaea 07:16​

"Constantine sought to use the growing faith to consolidate his empire."
  • During the 4th century, Emperor Constantine played a pivotal role in shaping early Christianity, intertwining it with the political landscape of the Roman Empire.
  • The Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. not only addressed theological debates but also aimed to unify Christianity under a central authority, which mirrored the Empire's hierarchical structures.
  • This blending of church and state had lasting effects, steering Christianity towards institutionalization, thereby marginalizing the intimate and relational aspects of faith that characterized early Christian communities.

The Evolution of Key Terms in Christianity 07:54​

"The Hebrew term 'Sheol' was translated into 'Hades' and then 'Hell,' dramatically altering its understanding."
  • Key biblical terms such as 'Sheol' have evolved through translations, with 'Sheol' merely referring to the grave in its original context, while subsequent translations infused it with connotations of punishment and torment.
  • Similarly, the concept of baptism has changed from a full immersion symbolizing death to self and rebirth in Christ to various practices that may diminish its original significance.
  • The original meaning of 'repent' as a transformation or change of mind is often lost in translation, leading to teachings focused more on guilt rather than the hopeful call for personal renewal.

The Bible: A Living Document of Meaning 10:33​

"The Bible, in its original form, is a living document rich with meaning, history, and divine truth."
  • The Bible is seen as a dynamic text that contains layers of significance, grounded in its cultural and linguistic origins.
  • Having a deep understanding of its context is essential in accessing the full richness of its teachings and messages.
  • To truly grasp the essence of biblical texts, one needs to study the original languages—Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic—and understand the cultural backdrop against which they were written.

Translation: A Double-Edged Sword 11:05​

"Translation wasn't always about preserving the original meaning; it was often about consolidating power and control."
  • Throughout history, the process of biblical translation has been influenced by power dynamics and control rather than searching for pure accuracy in meaning.
  • For instance, Jerome's Latin Vulgate, produced in the 4th century at the behest of Pope Damasus I, became the standard Bible for over a millennium, but it was marred by the influence of church authorities with specific agendas.
  • Jerome’s translation of key terms often served to solidify the church's doctrine, such as depicting hell as a place of eternal torment, which reinforced a fear-driven compliance among believers.

The Reformation and a Return to the Text 14:10​

"The Reformation was a response to this very tension."
  • The Reformation arose as a counter-movement to the established church’s control of scripture, spearheaded by reformers like Martin Luther.
  • Luther's translation of the Bible into German was a deliberate effort to return the scripture to the laypeople, making it accessible without institutional barriers.
  • This shift aimed to empower individuals to engage directly with biblical texts, free from doctrinal manipulation.

Modern Scholarship and Rediscovery 15:09​

"Advancements in archaeology and linguistics have brought us closer than ever to the original texts of the Bible."
  • Recent developments in biblical scholarship have provided new insights through archaeological findings such as the Dead Sea Scrolls and linguistic analysis, allowing for a more authentic understanding of biblical texts.
  • Scholars are now able to address nuances that earlier translations overlooked, enriching the theological and cultural comprehension of scripture.
  • This ongoing scholarly work is viewed not simply as academic inquiry but as a spiritual mission to restore the integrity of God's word for future generations.

The Responsibility of Translators 16:46​

"Understanding God's word requires humility, diligence, and a willingness to confront uncomfortable truths."
  • Translators carry the weighty responsibility of uncovering the true meaning of scripture, understanding that their work can significantly impact millions.
  • Insights from original Greek words like "Agape," which conveys a profound love, reveal deeper truths about God’s nature, often missed due to misinterpretations.
  • Such discoveries highlight the importance of careful study and reflection for contemporary believers looking to engage meaningfully with their faith through scripture.

The Importance of Community in Faith 20:50​

"This journey is not meant to be taken alone; God designed us to grow in community."
  • Engaging with scripture is greatly enhanced through collaboration with others, as individuals can uncover deeper meanings and insights together.
  • The process of understanding God's word isn’t just a personal endeavor; it thrives in community, where believers can sharpen and encourage one another, akin to iron sharpening iron.
  • Activities such as small group gatherings, Bible studies, and mentor discussions play a crucial role in this growth, facilitating collective wrestling with scripture that deepens comprehension and application of spiritual truths.
  • The essence of Ecclesia, the assembly of Believers, is rooted in this concept of unity through a shared love for God's word, fostering an environment where mutual accountability, challenges, and support can lead to stronger faith development.
 
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This blending of church and state had lasting effects, steering Christianity towards institutionalization, thereby marginalizing the intimate and relational aspects of faith that characterized early Christian communities.
This has always been in the back of my mind as a JW and now a deconstructing Christian. There is no denying the influence "politics" had on shaping "religion" way beyond Jesus original teachings. We all have a framework or worldview we feel comfortable with but others like me want to keep exploring for "real truth". I respect others views and don't want to knock them off of their views - I simply want to be respected back and have open honest discussions about all things spiritual and religious. Videos like this open our minds to consider all things.
Throughout history, the process of biblical translation has been influenced by power dynamics and control rather than searching for pure accuracy in meaning.
This is so true. I just listened to another video shared on this forum and the young woman who was brought up as a traditional Christian was taught Jesus said he was God. When she looked at context with the help of ChatGPT she discovered those interpretations were most likelye forced vs. what the context actually reveals - that Jesus was not God but humbly his Son and messenger https://simplychristian.faith/commu...-to-know-lily-jay-youtube-channel-video.6047/

The Reformation arose as a counter-movement to the established church’s control of scripture, spearheaded by reformers like Martin Luther.
The only problem is the reformation didn't go far enough in my opinion. They still held to many misconceptions like the trinity and hell fire etc. I think the world and with the help of technology and research at our fingertips is learning real truth and it will all come together soon. It will be a bumpy road but the more we arm ourselves with information the better prepared we will be.


Recent developments in biblical scholarship have provided new insights through archaeological findings such as the Dead Sea Scrolls and linguistic analysis, allowing for a more authentic understanding of biblical texts.
Yes the deads ea scrolls and Nag Hamadi Scriptures have provided lots of insight. Not necessarily that they are expressing "truth" but it does reveal what the people of that time were really believing and talking about. Much has been suppressed and stamped out. I for one want to know why? I want to read for myself and decide for myself - not have a "council" or governing body do it for me. I want to discuss it in a safe environment.

I have come to appreciate the research of James D. Tabor on subject like these.
Engaging with scripture is greatly enhanced through collaboration with others, as individuals can uncover deeper meanings and insights together.
That is what our Sparks Fellowship meeting is all about. We come together with different beliefs but we aim to engage in a respectful discussion on Bible and bible adjacent topics. If you'd like to join us sign up for the mailing list here.
 
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Before there was any written word of GOD, before the Bible, before Moses there were men of GOD. Melchizedek, Noah, Enoch, Abraham and others that had understanding. How was this accomplished ? The fact these men existed is proof that you do not need a Bible to learn GODS truth. If GOD is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent would HE be helpless without a written word, a Bible ? All these ancient Christians learned the same way Christians do today, by divine inspiration. Even if the Bible has errors, even if men changed things intentionally or accidentally this is not a barrier for GOD. Through the Holy Spirit GOD is able to overcome any obstacle to teach us through Christ HIS truth. All things are possible with GOD. Romans 8:38,39
How did the prophets know, how did Jesus know and how did the Apostles know ? Having the Bible is indeed a blessing but many have read it but don’t understand it so it isn’t a matter of simply reading it as it must be accompanied by the Holy Spirit in order to understand it.
All things are of the spirit of YAHWEH and HE has declared His will and no force or power can stop it.
 
Jesus said that the Elijah to come will restore all things. Jesus was referring to the Holy Spirit that he would send to the church on Pentecost ten days after he ascended to his FATHER. Therefore if anything has been lost that we must know and understand it will be restored. The true spirit and power behind any man called Elijah is the spirit of GOD. That spirit and power dwells in all Christians
 
John 6:45 I believe what Christ said in this verse. Christians learn from the FATHER through the mediator, they are taught the truth. It says “everyone “ this is Strongs article G3956 meaning all, the whole the entire. What this means to me is that the source of all truth, the giver or restorer is GOD the FATHER who is the Holy Spirit and that in order to have access to this truth you must go to or be in Christ, you must be a Christian. 1 John 2:27 is basically saying the same thing. If you have the Holy Spirit of the FATHER you have the anointing, the FATHER abiding in you and this anointing teaches you all things and because of this you have no need of preachers, pastors or ministers. Jesus alone is your mediator, there is no other but in the world they have these preachers, pastors and ministers that set themselves up as another mediator. What has been the result of that ? It seems to me that modern Christianity is in chaos and confusion yet people continue trusting in men rather than GOD and Christ. No learning or teaching can happen unless it is as Christ and John both said. John 14:26 confirms the other two verses I gave as does John 16:13 John 15:26 1 Corinthians 2:10,11,12,13 Paul explains that he could plant and Apollos could water but GOD had to give the increase, 1 Corinthians 3:6
This understanding is found throughout the scriptures. If people truly understand this message they would see that only GOD has the truth, only GOD will not lie to you or deceive you, that it has been men that have lied to you and deceived you . Then perhaps you will see that you need to be taught of GOD as the prophets, Jesus and the Apostles have told you.
 
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All these ancient Christians learned the same way Christians do today, by divine inspiration.
Amen!

It seems to me that modern Christianity is in chaos and confusion yet people continue trusting in men rather than GOD and Christ.
This understanding is found throughout the scriptures. If people truly understand this message they would see that only GOD has the truth, only GOD will not lie to you or deceive you, that it has been men that have lied to you and deceived you .
The God of Jesus is the truth - he is the source of everything and is true spirit. This is what I aspire to connect with and align with. I'm moving away from theology and debates over things that I no longer see as mattering. What matters is aligning with Jesus and his God - our heavenly Father - and that alignment begins with Love - true pure love, full of forgiveness and gratitude - the fruitage of the spirit should show in my life and when it doesn't I know I need an "alignment" or adjustment and go to my Father in prayer and meditation.
 
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The God of Jesus is the truth - he is the source of everything and is true spirit. This is what I aspire to connect with and align with. I'm moving away from theology and debates over things that I no longer see as mattering. What matters is aligning with Jesus and his God - our heavenly Father - and that alignment begins with Love - true pure love, full of forgiveness and gratitude - the fruitage of the spirit should show in my life and when it doesn't I know I need an "alignment" or adjustment and go to my Father in prayer and meditation.
We agree with you Sister, John 14:6, 2 Corinthians 5:17-21.
 
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The God of Jesus is the truth - he is the source of everything and is true spirit. This is what I aspire to connect with and align with. I'm moving away from theology and debates over things that I no longer see as mattering. What matters is aligning with Jesus and his God - our heavenly Father - and that alignment begins with Love - true pure love, full of forgiveness and gratitude - the fruitage of the spirit should show in my life and when it doesn't I know I need an "alignment" or adjustment and go to my Father in prayer and meditation.
Great position to be in. I'm happy for you.