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The Awesome Mystery of GOD The Father, The Logos, The Messiah, The Mystery Of Christ By William F. Dankenbring

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Chapter 12

Were Lucifer and the Logos Ever “Twins”? The Mystery of Lucifer and the Logos
Did the Logos, or One who became Christ, create the
one known as Lucifer, whose name was changed to
Satan? Did the Logos of God create "ALL things,"
and would this not have included "Lucifer"? And if
that be true, then it follows that Lucifer could not have
had the same "rank" as his "Creator" -- and they both
would not have been "morning stars." How could they
have been "twins" at one time, if one created the other?
But if Christ created Lucifer, then why did Christ have
to "qualify" to replace him -- couldn't he have just
"booted" him out?

Mystery of mysteries! Who created the being known as "Lucifer," who became
known later as Satan the devil?
A person wrote to me asking, "Who created Lucifer? Given that the Logos was
the first creation of God the Father and that there was nothing (else) created that was not
created by him, isn't it logical that the host of angels and Lucifer were created by the
Logos? If so, then it follows that Lucifer would not have the same rank as his creator. . .
It also becomes a bit difficult to understand why Christ needed to qualify to replace a
creation of his. He could have easily have kicked him out with his left foot. What is the
truth?"
These are excellent questions. In exploring them carefully, we will discover some
amazing truths which have been hidden from the prying eyes of the world from the very
creation itself!
The letter writer has put his finger on several issues, or problems, about the whole
subject of God and Satan, which have never been clarified. These questions need to be

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answered -- they pose eternal riddles that must be solved.
As the word of God says, "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor
of kings is to search out a matter" (Prov.25:2). Can we search this matter out and come
to a proper understanding?
Or must we remain mystified by apparent "contradictions" in God's Word? What
is the truth about this matter? What does the Word of God have to say?
Searching Out the Truth
To begin, let's use the "Benjamin Franklin" approach to this subject -- a true
scientist. Let's line up the "evidence" on both sides -- the pro's and the con's. Let's
analyze the subject very carefully. But in doing so, we must be very careful that we don't
prejudice the matter with conclusions or assumptions which may be invalid. Remember,
Isaiah was inspired to write: "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept;
line upon line, line upon line; here a little and there a little" (Isa.28:10). In other words,
we must be careful that we look at the WHOLE picture, and not just a small part of the
evidence!
Did Christ/The Logos create Lucifer? That is the first question the writer asks.
Let's analyze this question. But to answer that question, let's look at the many Scriptures
which seem to indicate that rather than the Logos being the creator of Lucifer, that they
were both created beings of the Father. Notice!
Evidence Christ and Lucifer were Once "Equal"
Proof #1. Christ is called the "bright and morning star" (Rev.22:16) and "day
star" (II Pet.1:20).
So is Lucifer (Isa.14:12) -- "O Lucifer" means "O day star" (margin, KJV) Also,
he is called "son of the morning," or "morning star" (same verse).
Thus the Scriptures do show that both have or had this same title or rank!
Proof #2. Christ was a created being. He said He was "the beginning of God's
creation" (Rev.3:14), and the apostle Paul refers to His as "the first born of every
creature" (Col.1:15). He is referred to as an "Angel" (Acts 7:30, 35, 38). He called the
Father "the only true God" (John 17:3) and referred to Him as "Father" (v.1). He said the
Father was greater than He (John 14:28). The apostle Paul also verified this truth. He
declared: "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in
him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him" (I Cor.8:6).
Lucifer also was a great "created being," unlike any other mentioned in the
Scriptures (Ezek.28:12), who "sealest up the sum," "full of wisdom," "perfect in beauty"
(same verse). God never said this of any other of the angels, archangels, cherubim, or

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seraphim! Of no other being is this said, but God Himself, or the Logos. Thus Lucifer
was higher and greater than any other angel or created cherubim or seraphim. He too
was "created" (Ezek.28:13, 15).
Proof #3. The Logos, or Christ, is God's "anointed one" (Christos means
"anointed one").
Lucifer also, unlike any other created being but Christ, was an "anointed one."
God said of him, "Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth" (Ezek.28:14). No other
being or angel is ever said to be "anointed,' except for the Logos, or Christ (Isa.61:1;
Heb.1:9; Psa.2:2).
Proof #4. The Logos, we know, was and is a "ruler" of God's creation,
"upholding all things by the word of his power" (Heb.1:3).
Lucifer also was (and is) a "ruler" -- unlike any other angel or being mentioned in
Scripture, he is "ruler" of the earth and has had a "throne" for aeons on the earth. He
said, "I will exalt my throne" (Isa.14:13). What other angels has a "throne"? None! He
is the ruler of this world (Matt.4:8-9), "prince of the power of the air" (Eph.2:2), the "god
of this world" (II Cor.4:4).
Proof #5. There are only TWO "anointed" cherubim that "covered" the Ark,
which represented the throne of God the Father (Exo.25:18-20). Not three or four
cherubim. Thus out of all the cherubim God created, there were at least "four" that
Ezekiel saw (Ezekiel 1:5;10:10, 20). But there were only TWO special cherubims that
were "anointed" and covered the throne of God as guardians -- these two cherubim were
TWINS!
Proof #6. The "mercy seat" is the seat of God, God the Father -- a type of His
Throne. Today, Christ sits at His right hand, since He arose from the dead. Notice that
these two cherubim, and only they -- nothing else -- are made of gold out of the mercy
seat itself -- all of one part (Exo.25:18-19). "And he made two cherubims of gold, beaten
out of one piece . . . out of the MERCY SEAT made he the cherubims . . ." (Exo.37:7-8).
What does this enigmatic statement tell us? It seems very puzzling. Why were
the two cherubim made out of the same ESSENCE as the mercy seat, which represents
God the Father? Could this show not only that these two beings were made "from" the
Father's own essence? And that they were "pro-created" from His own being? That is,
they were His "first-born" of all creation?
Keep this puzzling fact in your mind as we further explore into this baffling
mystery of the ages!
Proof #7. The day of atonement contains a ceremony in which two identical
goats were chosen -- one "for the LORD" (which is sacrificed to atone for our sins) , the
other the "Azazel" goat -- the goat "for departure" or ""for complete removal" (KJV

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margin), a representation of "Lucifer" or "Satan."
Notice -- both are chosen at random, and lots are cast over them. One makes an
atonement for sin (Lev.16:9), the other is cast out into the wilderness (v.10; compare
Rev.20:1-2). Both goats are similar -- equal -- just "goats." But in this ceremony, these
equal or similar goats are chosen, one to represent Christ, one to represent Lucifer.
Again, this implies a certain "likeness" between them -- an "equality" or "similarity" at
one time.
Proof #8. When Christ was crucified, as our Atonement, as the true "SON OF
GOD," at that very same time another man was set free who deserved to be put to death.
When Christ, the "Son of God," was killed as our Atonement, at the very same time, a
criminal/murderer named "Barabbas" was set free. Barabbas was a type of the "Azazel"
goat, the one "set free," while Christ, our Redeemer, symbolized as the one chosen "for
the Lord," was slain for our sins. The name "Bar-abbas" in Hebrew means, "Bar" --
"son," and "abba," -- "father." That is, Bar-abbas means "SON OF THE FATHER." Thus
both were "sons of the Father." Here again, the concept of "twins" comes to the
forefront!
Since Bar-abbas was a "son of the Father," does not this imply that Lucifer, whom
he represented, was also a "son of the Father"? And since he was set free when Christ
was crucified, does this not again imply their "equality" in a sense?

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Putting the Evidence Together

This is strong Biblical evidence which implies that the Logos and Lucifer were at
one time considered as "equals" -- on the same plane of existence -- of the same heavenly
RANK!
In astronomy, the Zodiac contains a constellation known from antiquity as "The
Gemini" or "The Twins." Is it not possible that THE GEMINI (HEAVENLY) TWINS,
depicted in the Zodiac, are ancient representations of the Logos and Lucifer, depicting a
time when they were friends and companions, under the Father, both hovering over His
throne as Guardians of the Throne of God?
As we have already seen, both Christ/The Logos and Lucifer were created beings,
originally. One later became the TRUE "son" of God, and a co-Creator with the Father,
and will ultimately inherit all things (Rom.8:17; Heb.2:8; I Cor.15:27-28). He has
qualified for this position and glory by His obedience and faithfulness through aeons of
time!
The other, however, became the "evil twin," and disappointed his heavenly
Father. He also could have inherited all things with his "brother," if he had been faithful
and obedient -- but instead, he rebelled against His Father, he disqualified, and was
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As such, he has become the great "enemy" of God and of mankind.
At one time, then, Lucifer had an opportunity to be like the Logos has become -- a
co-ruler of the Universe. But pride got in the way, evil entered into his heart, he became
greedy and insubordinate, rebellious and full of hate (Ezek.28:15-18). He led one third
of the angels in rebellion (Rev.12:4). This implies that at one time he was "over" at least
one third of all the angels, if not over even half of the angels, and that his personality and
persuasiveness was great enough to cause one third of all God's angels to follow him
instead of the Father and the Logos!
Clearly, Lucifer was no ordinary "cherubim"! Such a SUPER creation of God,
with this kind of power and influence, must have been comparable to the Logos at one
time.
But his "development" was "arrested" when he turned to evil, whereas the Logos
kept on growing in power and authority and ability. His "growth" stopped. His spiritual
development took a turn for the worse. Instead of learning how to become a great
Creator, he developed the "dark side of the force," and became a great Destroyer!
The Rebellion of Absalom
This heavenly story of what must have occurred aeons ago in the celestial court of
Heaven is similar to the story of David and his son Absalom. We read in the Old
Testament that Absalom took matters into his own hands, and killed his brother Amnon
who had raped his half-sister, and Absalom's sister, Tamar (II Sam.13:1-34). David
banished Absalom from the kingdom for this heinous, treacherous act. Absalom never
forgave David, although later David forgave him and brought him back into the kingdom.
Absalom, like Lucifer, was renown for his beauty. We read, "But in all Israel
there was none to be so much praised as Absalom for his beauty: from the sole of his
foot even to the crown of his head there was no blemish in him" (II Sam.14:25). But
Absalom plotted and connived, and cooked up a virulent and powerful conspiracy to
usurp David's throne, and seize the kingdom for himself! (II Sam.15:1-10). Lucifer tried
that very same sort of thing (Isaiah 14:12-14).
Absalom succeeded in his plot, and David had to flee for his life (II Sam.15:14-
30). These were dark days for David and those faithful to him, and for the kingdom of
Israel. But Absalom, like Lucifer before him, stole the hearts of many man, even as
Lucifer deceived and stole the hearts of many of the angels, and one third followed him
in his rebellion (Rev.12:4).
Do you see how the Physical is often a Type of the Spiritual Realm? Absalom
was one of king David's own sons! Yet he rebelled! Even so it must have been painful
for God the Father -- one of His very own beloved "sons" -- Lucifer -- rebelled against
him, and plotted to seize the kingdom of heaven for himself!

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Absalom's rebellion eventually failed, and David regained his throne. But even
then his heart went out to his son, Absalom, who had been killed. He wept and mourned,
and cried, "O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! would I have died for thee, O
Absalom, my son, my son!" (II Sam.18:33).
Truly, God the Father must know pain. Even though He is God, He is most
sensitive, full of loving-kindness, and it grieves Him deeply when one of His children
goes astray. He mourned and grieved when He saw the wickedness of men upon the
earth before the Flood -- "it grieved him at his heart" (Gen.6:6). God is not without
feelings. How it must have 'hurt' to see His own created and much-loved son "Lucifer"
turn on him, and savagely attack Him, and seek to seize His throne! Can we even begin
to imagine the grief and sorrow and pain He must have felt?
Christ Qualified to be King and Saviour
How much the true "success story" of the Logos must have rejoiced His heart!
Jesus Christ, that is, the Logos, was willing to obey His Father, and risk everything, and
became a human being, so that He could suffer pain, and temptation, and resist sin, and
abase Himself to even die for our sins, even so shameful a death as crucifixion! (John
1:14; Phil.2:5-9; Heb.12:1-4). In order to redeem us to God, and bring us back out of
Satan's domain, He had to "pay" the penalty we had incurred for all our sins. He had to
qualify to become our Saviour, and to pay the price for our sins. He had to live a perfect,
righteous, sinless life, so He could give His life in exchange for ours! He was then
resurrected, and now sits at the right hand of God as our High Priest (Heb.1:3; 3:1, 8:1).
But Christ/the Logos first had to be "perfected" through sufferings (Heb.2:10), He
had to overcome temptation (Heb.4:15). He had to "learn obedience" through what He
suffered (Heb.5:7-8). Through this process, He was "made perfect" (Heb.2:10, 5:8).
Thus He had to qualify to replace Satan -- to "save" mankind from Satan's grasp and evil
influence -- to "remove" Satan from being our lord and master!
As the letter writer pointed out, IF Christ had been the Creator of Satan, or
Lucifer, in the first place, then why would He have had to qualify to replace him? That
makes no sense. If He was his creator, He could simply have "replaced" him by kicking
him out and taking over!
This fact alone, therefore, testifies to the truth that Christ was NOT the creator of
Satan or Lucifer. Rather, He was indeed at one time comparable to Him – as it were, like
his brother or his "Twin" brother – early in their lives, in the beginning. Both had to
“prove” themselves over time and experience to be faithful. The Logos did that, but
Lucifer failed. Nevertheless, he had much power and government which had been given
to him. Christ/The Logos therefore had to "qualify" to replace him as ruler of this earth
and to complete the Plan of God, of bringing many “sons” to glory, into the Family of
God! Only by coming to the earth, becoming a Man, and living a perfect life and dying
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But long ago, it was the Father -- not Christ or the Logos -- who put Lucifer in
charge of the earth, and gave him a throne upon it! To replace him as King over the
world, the Logos/Christ had to defeat him and overcome him (Matt.4:1-4; Luke 4:1-4),
and then give His life to make it possible for mankind to be brought back out of
subjection to the Devil and his government, and to qualify to enter into the Kingdom of
God!
The Son of God Died, Lucifer Must Die
We know that God became human flesh, and died for our sins -- the Messiah gave
up His divinity, became a human being, so that He could suffer death for all mankind
(Phil.2:5-11). He died for us that we might live through Him (II Cor.5:21). "But we see
Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned
with glory and honor, that he by the grace of God should suffer taste death for every
man" (Heb.2:9).
The Scriptures also show that Lucifer -- Satan the devil -- will eventually suffer
the death penalty for his sins. But for him there will be no resurrection! As Paul wrote,
"For the wages of sin is DEATH" (Rom.6:23). The devil, Satan, will be turned into
ashes, and perish in the final "death" -- the lake of fire (Matt.25:41). Christ Himself will
eventually "destroy him that had the power over death, that is, the devil' (Heb.2:14).
Lucifer himself will exist no more! God says, "I will cast thee to the ground, I
will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee" (Ezek.28:17). "Therefore will I
bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to
ASHES upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee
shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be [exist] any
more" (v.18-19).
So here again, we see a parallel. Christ, the Logos, became flesh, and DIED.
Lucifer, that great spirit being of Rebellion, the Enemy of God, will also perish, and taste
death -- but he will do so forever!
Putting ALL the Scriptures Together
When we put all this together, it all begins to come together like a giant jigsaw
puzzle, with all the pieces fitting into place. It is a glorious picture. The history of the
universe, and the original rebellion of Lucifer, and how he was able to convince one third
of the angels to follow him in rebellion, begins to make more sense!
The fact that Christ had to come to this earth, and qualify to become our Saviour,
and had to battle Satan and resist him and conquer him (Matt.4:1-11), begins to make
more sense. Such a battle would have been unnecessary if Christ had been Lucifer's
creator! It would have made no sense. It would have been mere "window-dressing."
But that battle was REAL! Make no mistake about it! Christ could have failed --

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He could have slipped up, sinned, and disqualified to be our Saviour! But HE DID NOT!
He fought, resisted, and overcame Satan the devil! He overcame, on the spiritual
battlefield, the one who had been His at one time during their lives his own "twin
brother" – one like him in many respects – before He became the full Son of God and like
the Father in every way!
For a fuller explanation of the Logos, write for our articles “The Origin of the
Logos and Lucifer,” “Who or What Was Jesus Christ Before His Human Birth?”, “The
Only True God,” “Did Christ Pre-Exist?” and “Was Jesus Christ Created?”
But wait a minute. What about those other Scriptures, which I have not yet
explained, or attempted to explain, which imply that Christ/The Logos was CREATOR of
"ALL" things? Did that include Lucifer?
Everything I have written so far indicates that Christ/The Logos did not create
Lucifer, but God the Father did! "But," I can just hear the questions coming, "But, but,
but --"???
Now let's look at those other Scriptures, and see if perhaps we have
MISUNDERSTOOD them! Have we allowed preconceived ideas to lead us to false
assumptions and conclusions?
The Other Side of the Picture
But what are the verses which many may think militate against this conclusion?
What are the "con's" -- the passages of Scripture which would seemingly belie this
picture, or render it invalid? Let's take a very careful look at them, and see what they
really say, and what they don't say!
The arguments against this scenario essentially boil down to one argument only.
Once we see the proof and understand that the Logos Himself was a created being,
originally, and did not always "co-exist" with the "Father" as a second and "co-equal"
member of the God Family, then our minds can be more open to realize that since God
the Father created or pro-created ONE heavenly "Son," what was to stop Him from
creating two? And, if it had worked out, three, four, five, six, or even more? Why did
He stop at "two"? Let's understand!
The major argument against the Logos and Lucifer once having been "celestial
twins," boils down to this: If the Logos was involved in the creation of EVERYTHING -
- the whole creation of angels and the universe -- then didn't He also create Lucifer? And
if He created Lucifer, then isn't the Creator more powerful than that which he creates?
How could the creator be the "twin" of His own creation? Obviously, that doesn't make
much sense! Would He create His own "twin"?
Now let us analyze this idea carefully. Let's try not to reason ourselves into a
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the Logos as the Creator. What are they really saying? Let's not "jump to conclusions,"
as many seem eager to do on this subject! Let's patiently explore the evidence with an
OPEN and sincere mind.
Remember, ALL the Scriptures must fit together like fingers in a glove, perfectly.
To rephrase a famous defense attorney, "If the glove doesn't fit, we must aquit!" But if
the glove does fit, then we must be willing to change our previous ideas and beliefs -- no
matter how hard it may be! Jesus Christ pointed out, "The Scripture cannot be broken"
(John 10:35). He also said, "Thy word is TRUTH" (John 17:17). So let's look at the
Word of God very carefully on this issue, before we draw any conclusions, or say "it just
can't be"! The EVIDENCE is all that matters -- not our presumptions, opinions, or
emotionally biased feelings!
The apostle Paul wrote, "ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That
the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works" (II Tim.3:16-
17).
So what about those two passages of Scripture which seem to imply that
Christ/The Logos created Lucifer? Have we properly understood those passages?
Notice!
We read in John: "All things were made by him, and without him was not
anything made that was made" (John 1:2).
Paul adds in Colossians: "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven,
and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or
principalities, or powers: all things were created by him" (Col.1:16).
What do these statements, which seems so clear, REALLY MEAN? First of all,
what is meant by the expression, "ALL things"?
What Does "ALL THINGS" Mean?
Let us notice carefully a comparable scripture in the book of Romans.
Paul tells us, in the book of Romans: "ALL Israel shall be saved" (Rom.11:26).
What does "ALL" mean? Does this mean every last person who was or is an "Israelite"
shall be saved -- EVERYONE -- no exceptions? Is Paul here teaching "UNIVERSAL
salvation"?
Not at all!
Jesus Christ said to the Pharisees, who were of Israel, "Ye serpents, ye generation
of vipers, how shall ye escape the damnation of hell [Gehenna fire]?" (Matt.23:33).

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Paul himself was concerned lest he himself should fall away from the truth of
God, and become a "castaway" (I Cor.9:27).
The apostle John writes in the book of Revelation: "And death and hell were cast
into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in
the book of life was cast into the lake of fire" (Rev.20:14-15).
John adds, in another place: "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the
abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the
second death" (Rev.21:8).
How clear it is, then! "All" does not necessarily mean literally, absolutely "all,"
as we think of it in English! Thus "ALL" Israel does not mean every single last one of all
Israelites will be "saved." Not at all! Those who are wicked will be JUDGED cast into
the lake of fire! What Paul means when he says "ALL" Israel, then, is "the vast majority"
-- the "overwhelming preponderance." But he does not mean "all" in the sense of "every
last one." Not at all!
Let's consider another example. What does it mean that Christ will rule over "all
things"?
We read in I Corinthians: "For he [the Father] hath put ALL under his [Christ's]
feet. But when he sayeth ALL things are put under him, it is manifest that HE IS
EXCEPTED which did put ALL things under him" (I Cor.15:27). "And when ALL things
shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put
ALL things under him . . ." (v.28).
Let's analyze this statement. In this passage, we clearly see that there is an
EXCEPTION made to the "all things" mentioned which will be under Christ. Paul
plainly says the FATHER will not be under Christ's feet -- He is an "exception" to the
"ALL things" which will be under Christ! Isn't that plain as clear crystal?
Thus whenever we read the expression "all things," we must not jump to
conclusions, and think that such an expression "settles the matter" once and for all! It
simply does not. This expression in many cases must not and cannot be taken literally!
In this case, ALL THINGS will be under the rule of Jesus Christ, Yeshua the Messiah --
but that clearly does not include "ALL" things, for it does not include the Father Himself!
He is an "exception"!
This shows us plainly that there can be "exceptions" when we read of "all" things!

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What Does "ALL" Really Mean?

How, then, does this principle apply to "creation"? And to the creation of

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"Lucifer"?
Simply this! When the Logos created "all things" -- that does not and cannot
mean literally everything. In fact, we know He did not create "all things." First, He did
NOT create the Father! Second, He did not create Himself! Therefore, "all things'
obviously excludes both the Father, and Himself!
Thirdly, based on the evidence we see in Scripture which we have already
discussed in this article, He did not create Lucifer!
These are the three logical exceptions! If there are any other exceptions, the
Word of God does not tell us about them.
Thus the word "all" means "the vast overwhelming majority of things," or, "the
preponderance of things," or "most everything," but does not necessarily mean
everything! It would appear that Lucifer is an exception, because he was created with the
Logos by the Father at the earliest of times, before the rest of the angels were made. He,
like the Logos or Christ, was also "a morning star," " bright star of the dawn," "an
anointed one," had a "throne," and held awesome power unlike that of any other angel!
Thus the exceptions to the statement that the Logos/Christ created "all things"
would have been the Father, Christ or the Logos Himself, and Lucifer, who was evidently
created by the Father at about the same time the Logos was created. Thus when Paul
speaks of "all things" being created by Christ, this expression would simply exclude
anything not created by Him, such as the Father, Himself, and Lucifer, who was created
at about the same time He was!
How Many "Creations" Were There?
On the other hand, there is another fact which we must consider:
The expression "all things" could also be a limited reference that only refers to all
the things that are included in THE FINAL CREATION. In other words, there must have
been a "PRIOR creation" to the present one, and Lucifer and the Logos were part of that
prior, primordial creation! Notice!
The Scriptures declare, "In a beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
(Gen.1:1). The Hebrew does not contain the article "the." Also in John 1:1, it literally
reads, "In a beginning was the Word" -- again, not "the beginning," as the King James
says.
How many "beginnings" were there? Or, to put it another way, how many
"creations" did God create?
Judging by the Hebrew and the Greek language, and the evidence of Scripture,
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at Scriptural evidence, as well as the vast realm of geology and paleontology, there have
been several periods of "Creation." What does the Word of God tell us about the
different creations?
1) First, we know there was the creation of the Logos. That would be Creation
#1. Thus Christ was the "first born of all creation" (Col.1:15), "the beginning of the
creation of God" (Rev.3;14). This creation could have included Lucifer, as His "twin,"
but Lucifer isn't mentioned as part of this creation because he disqualified and disgraced
himself!
2) There was the creation of the angels, who were made before the physical
universe, because they rejoiced to see the physical universe created. God says of them to
Job, "Where was thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? . . .When the morning
stars sang together, and the sons of God [angels] shouted for joy?" (Job 38:4-7). The rest
of the angels would have been "creation #2" -- and Christ, the Logos, helped the Father
create them according to the New Testament (John 1:1-3; Col.1:15-16).
3) There was the creation of the present Universe -- the stars, planets, and
galaxies -- the heavens and earth (Gen.1:1). This would be the third creation -- the "third
beginning."
This creation may have been millions or billions of years ago -- we do not know
for sure when it occurred. However, we do know that after it took place, Lucifer rebelled
and led his angels into cosmic warfare. This was the true "star wars" of ancient
cosmological history! He and his angels caused massive destruction and devastation
throughout the earth, and solar system, when Lucifer rebelled! The result was tohu va
vohu -- chaos and waste (Gen.1:2).
The earth "became" desolate and uninhabited, due to the destruction caused by the
cosmic "star wars" that occurred! This fateful cataclysm may have occurred at the time
of the massive dying off of the dinosaurs, estimated by geologists to have occurred
perhaps 60 million years ago. Of course, their "timetable" could be very inaccurate, as
well. However, there is evidence that a massive asteroid struck the earth, in the region of
the Yucatan peninsula of Mexico, which caused incredible destruction of life forms
around the world. Was that the time Lucifer led his angels in an attack on God's throne,
after a long time of discontent and seething jealousy built up in his heart and mind? Was
that when he finally "rebelled" and led one third of the angels on a very destructive
course?
However, in the original universe, God did not originally create the cosmos that
way. He created it beautiful, and lovely. He created it "not in vain" [tohu]" (Isa.45:18).
After this cosmic destruction, there was a period of darkness upon the earth (Gen.1:2-3).
But then God began another "creation."
4) Genesis 1:3-31, beginning with the "first day," then, depicts a NEW creation --
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creation." This new creation occurred in seven literal days when God "renewed" the face
of the earth (compare Psalm 104:30).
Thus we see at least four periods of "Creation" mentioned or alluded to in the
Scriptures. We know very little about the period of creation of the Logos, or Lucifer, or
the "angels." That period of creation may well not have been "instantaneous" at all, but
could have comprised a long period of time, when God, with the Logos, created the
angels. What part Lucifer would have served in that period we do not know. Remember,
however, that he is depicted as one of two "anointed" cherubim which "guard" the throne
of God! He must have had great authority and presence to hold such a vital position!
During the creation of the angels, God created vast numbers of them. We know,
for example, that there are billions of such creatures -- a "thousand thousand [million]"
and "ten thousand times ten thousand [one hundred million]" (Dan.7:9-10).
How long did it take God and the Logos to create these spirit beings? Time, as
we know it, did not exist then, for there were still no heavens and earth!
After this, we come to Genesis 1:1, where we read, "In the beginning [or, "a"
beginning] God [Elohim, a uni-plural word which literally means, "The Mighty Ones"]
created the heavens and the earth." Thus we see that the Father and the Logos created the
physical universe. This fact is further verified by the statement in Genesis 1:26, where
God says, "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness." God was not the
"absent-minded professor" who was talking to Himself! This was the Father, speaking to
the Son or the Logos!
Mankind, therefore, was made in the physical and mental "image" and "likeness"
of the Logos and the Father, only composed of the dust of the ground (Gen.2:6). How
interesting! God stopped creating "sons" in His spiritual image with the Logos, and
Lucifer. Why did He stop? Because one of them, Lucifer, turned into a "spoiled brat"
and rebelled against his Father!
At this point, then, God the Father devised a NEW PLAN. Rather than create
"sons" of spirit, which could rebel and throw – or lead -- the whole of Creation into a
paroxysm of violence and destruction, He began creating new "sons" in His “image” out
of dust of the ground. (Gen.1:26). This way He could work with them, educate them,
teach them the right way to go, and give them His Torah -- His Laws and commandments
-- that are the way to LIFE! This way He could observe them, as they develop their
"character" on earth, during a short span of time. Those who "rebelled," like Lucifer,
could be cast into a lake of fire and destroyed, without any harm coming to the rest of the
Creation!
Do we begin to glimpse the awesomeness of God's Plan?
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We can conclude that the Logos, a created or pro-created Son of God, had
qualified to become a Co-Creator with the Father when the angels were made. We read,
"for by him [Christ, the Logos] were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in
earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or
powers . . ." (Col.1:16). This would obviously include the angelic beings in heaven and
earth! However, as we have just seen, this passage of Scripture, speaking of "all things,"
would be a reference to the PRESENT CREATION, and is not even discussing the prior
creation to that of the angels! It would not even be referring, then, to Lucifer, who was
part of a prior "creation"!
This and similar passages, then, do not "prove" or necessarily state that the Logos
created Lucifer! This statement is simply a general, over-all kind of statement of fact,
such as "All Israel will be saved." It is a statement of fact referring to all things of a later
Creation. It is not even taking under consideration the "first creation" period when the
Logos, and apparently Lucifer, were created as the "two cherubim" that covered the Ark -
- the Throne of God -- in heaven! It clearly therefore does not prove that Lucifer was
created by the Logos!
Obviously, "all things" here do not include the Father. Nor do "all things"
include the Son. Since many Scriptures imply that the Logos had a "twin," whom the
Father created about the same time as the Logos, then this statement would also
automatically exclude that "twin."

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Conclusion:

Therefore, when all this evidence is put together, we find that originally, there
was ONE GOD -- THE "ANCIENT OF DAYS" (Dan.7:9-10).
At some point, then, He began to create. He created the Logos (the "firstborn" of
all creation). The fact that there was a "first-born" implies that God also intended to
create MORE -- at least one more -- like Him, or a "second born"! But why create only
"one"? Why not "two," or "three," or more?
Notice! At the beginning of the human race, Adam and Eve had "Cain and Abel"
(Gen.4:1) -- TWO SONS, or TWINS! Was this a human "type" of what had already
occurred in heaven, long, long ago, in the Father's own family?
However, we do not need to literally think of the Logos and Lucifer as "twins."
They were evidently not "identical twins," but more on the line of "fraternal" twins. One
would have been created before the other, but very close together in time sequence,
probably. They were not both alike in every way -- there were differences between them.
Evidently, judging by the description given in Ezekiel 28, Lucifer was the "best-looking,"
or most "beautiful" of the two -- "perfect in beauty" (see Ezekiel 28:12). Yet this
overpowering "beauty" was a source of temptation which led to pride and conceit (v.17).
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Consider this possibility, also. Even as Cain was the first twin, before Abel, and
Esau was the "elder" twin who was born before his brother Jacob, so it is even possible
that Lucifer was originally the first twin, followed by the Logos! But he "disqualified"
himself because of his attitude from being the "firstborn." He, like Esau, apparently
"despised" his "birthright," and lost title to it when he rebelled against his own
Father/Creator!
As Cain was "born" before Abel, so Lucifer may have been "born" before the
Logos. But, like Cain, he turned into a murderer. And as a result, he was "disinherited"!
Esau also was born before his brother Jacob, and was his "fraternal twin," but he
also turned into a murderer and a bully. So much so that God said, "Was not Esau
Jacob's brother? yet I loved Jacob, and I hated Esau" (Malachi 1:2-3). Esau's violent
nature and uncontrolled temper finally led to his ruination. Was this not also a parallel of
what happened to Lucifer, aeons before?
Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth, but it appears that Shem was the
younger -- yet the "right of birth" goes through him, and he became reckoned as the
"firstborn" because he was righteous. Jacob's literal "firstborn" was Reuben, but he
disqualified being the firstborn because he went up to his father's bed and slept with his
father's concubine, and the birthright was transferred to Joseph (Gen.49:4; I Chron.5:2).
Abraham has two brothers, Nahor and Haran, and he himself was evidently the youngest
-- but he also qualified to obtain the "birthright" as his two older brothers disqualified.
Even so, the Logos -- whether or not He was literally the "firstborn," became the
firstborn because Lucifer disqualified, rebelled against God, and has been in a state of
perpetual rebellion ever since!
The Bible has these fascinating accounts of the life stories of twins, like Cain and
Abel, one evil, one righteous -- and the righteous was second-born, but became the
"firstborn" when the original firstborn disqualified. Esau, the firstborn, sold his birthright
to Jacob, and lost it forever.
Is it not possible, therefore, that long, long ago, God the Father made two sons --
but one of them became evil and twisted, and started a revolution amongst the angels, and
became a "Destroyer" rather than a "Creator"?
God's Awesome Plan -- Reproducing Himself!
Think about it. It seems to have been God's plan from the beginning to reproduce
Himself, and He began with the Logos ("Word") and "Lucifer" ("Shining Star"). Lucifer,
however, corrupted himself and became a "fallen star," an "Adversary," so his name was
changed to "Satan" ("Adversary," "Enemy"). Therefore, God made no more spirit beings
after the same process -- the "failure rate" was too high and too costly. He could not
afford to have 50% of His created "sons" turn bad like Lucifer -- or even 33%, judging by
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Therefore, to continue His plan, God began the new creation in Genesis 1, and
this time around He created "mankind" in His own image -- but out of dust of the ground,
so that if mankind went "bad," those who became incorrigibly wicked could easily be
destroyed, without their causing too much damage to the Universe in the process!
Like David's son Absalom, one of God the Father's "sons" went astray, rebelled,
and caused vast havoc and destruction. He will be dealt with appropriately, as we have
seen. But to make certain that such a thing never happened again, on a cosmic scale of
rebellion and intergalactic destruction, God decided to limit the "divine experiment" to
this planet we call earth, for now. And now He is furthering His plan through human
beings, who live only about seventy years, and who are given this time to learn lessons of
obedience to God, submission to God's Law, love and respect, honoring their parents, and
loving their neighbors. This way any future "damage" will be minimized and any
potential universe-destroying rebellions will be nipped in the bud, before the rebels gain
enough power to do any real damage!
"The Secret Things Belong to God"
There is much that we do not know. Therefore, we should not assume that we
know, based on a few superficial observations or misinterpretations of a few Scriptures.
We must be very careful to put ALL the Scriptures together, and not allow ourselves to
become trapped in a "box canyon."
As Moses declared, "The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those
things which are revealed belong to us and to our children for ever, that we may do all
the words of this law" (Deut.29:29). And God Almighty is revealing more and more to
His servants during these last days, before the end!
As God told Daniel the prophet, "Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up
and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried: but
the wicked shall [continue to] do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand; but
the WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND" (Dan.12:9-10).
The prophet Amos also was inspired to write, "Surely the Lord GOD will do
nothing [including fulfilling His great awesome plan] but he REVEALETH HIS
SECRET unto his servants the prophets" (Amos 3:7).
When we stop and think about it, and look at ALL the Scriptures, the evidence
showing that the Logos was created, or "pro-created" by the Father, is simply
overwhelming. He did not eternally exist, co-equal and co-eternal with the Father. He
Himself had "a beginning." In many passages of Scripture He is called an "Angel." He
came "proceeded forth and came" from God the Father (John 8:42). He was sent to earth
by the Father (John 6:29, 38, 40, 44, etc.). He acknowledged that the Father is greater
than He (John 14:28). Yet He, too, became very "GOD"! He says, in John, that He is the
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God -- and they knew what He meant (John 5:18).
Only the two anointed cherubim that covered the throne of God came forth from
the throne itself -- were made out of the very same piece of gold that was the throne --
symbolizing God the Father! They were "of one piece" with the throne. Moses was told,
"Even OF the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof"
(Exo.25:19).
"And he made the mercy seat of pure gold . . . And he made two cherubims of
gold, beaten out of one piece made he them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. . . OUT
OF the mercy seat made he the cherubims . . ." (Exo.37:6-8). They were of "beaten"
gold (v.7) -- meaning their "character" was hammered into shape. There were only TWO
of them. What is God telling us here? Is this just superfluous and irrelevant details
which have no real purpose?
Or is God TELLING us something -- something IMPORTANT?
ALL these facts, plus much more, reveal to us that the "Logos" indeed, in the
earliest aeons of eternity, had a "brother" -- whom we could call a "twin" in general terms
-- just as the two cherubims were "twins" for all practical purposes. This "twin" also, like
the Logos at one time had the potential to become part of the Elohim. But Lucifer
disqualified -- at some point, he went astray and became proud, and grew dissatisfied
with God's plan and His government -- His way of doing things -- His "Law" or "Torah."
So he rebelled and led one third of the "stars of heaven" -- angelic beings -- into sin and
lawlessness (Rev.12:4).
What a story! Stranger than fiction! But this is the TRUTH! Lucifer led a third
of the angels into cosmic combat, fighting against the legions of God, in a mad and
depraved attempt to seize His Throne! (Isa.14:12-15). What a drama! And it is still
unfolding before us, today! It is not yet finished!
The Scriptures clearly show that "Lucifer" -- "shining star of the dawn" -- was a
superpowerful being, much more so than any normal "cherubim" although they were
among the most powerful of angels. He also had a "throne," which they do not. He also
was "anointed" -- they are not. He was the "anointed cherub that covereth" the throne of
God -- thus making him one of the ONLY TWO that were formed out of the gold of the
"mercy seat" itself, all of "one piece."
The Father created them both from the "mercy seat" -- representing Himself.
Lucifer, however, was never truly "begotten" of God, or if he was, his begettal "aborted,"
one way or the other, when he disqualified, so he ceased to grow into his potential from
that time. But he has lusted after God's office and throne ever since, and therefore has
made himself into a member of the "trinity," the pagan trinity, refusing to accept his
punishment. He lusts for worship and power; but now his destiny is to die.
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to cause so much trouble for all God's people. And he is soon going to cause even
MORE trouble for the saints of God! For he is not finished yet!
We read in the book of Revelation, that very soon, now, another intergalactic,
celestial battle is going to take place. Once again Lucifer/Satan will stage a final
desperate attempt to seize God's Throne. Once again "star wars" are soon to break out!
The apostle John records a vision of what is shortly to occur. He wrote: "And
there was WAR IN HEAVEN: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the
dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more
in heaven. And that great dragon was CAST OUT, that old serpent called the Devil, and
Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was CAST OUT into the earth, and his
angels were cast out with him" (Rev.12:7-9).
When he discovers he is cast out, however, he is going to PERSECUTE the
saints, the church of God, and bring great calamity to this earth! John goes on, "Woe to
the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having
great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time" (Rev.12:12).
Yet he will come to his end, and none shall stop him (Rev.20:10; Matt.25:41). He
will be destroyed -- for ever! If you have not read it, be sure to read our article, "What is
Satan's Fate?"
The Enigma of the Devil
Throughout the Scriptures, it is evident that there are three most powerful beings,
not more, at this time. There is the Father. He has supreme power and authority. Then
there is the Son/Logos -- Jesus Christ, Yeshua our Messiah. All power in heaven and
earth is now given to Him, under the Father (Matt.28:19-20). But thirdly, as the "ruler"
of this earth, the "prince of the power of the air," the "god of this world," there is Satan
the devil -- the arch-enemy of God, and the arch-enemy of mankind! Variously named
Lucifer, Satan, the Adversary, Abaddon, Apollyon, Beel-zebub, he is "the prince of
darkness."
Even Michael, one of the chief princes among the angelic host, the "first" among
the angelic princes, who stands for Israel (Dan.12:1), cannot defeat him alone. In the
book of Jude we read: "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he
disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but
said, The Lord rebuke thee" (Jude 9). Notice! Even when Michael confronted Satan in a
dispute over the body of Moses, could not defeat him by himself, but called upon the
LORD, saying, "The Lord rebuke thee" (Jude 9).
Lucifer/Satan still has great power. He is now compared to a "roaring lion,"
going about seeking whom he may devour. But we can overcome him through the
indwelling power of the Spirit of God (Acts 5:32; Gal.2:20). The apostle James tells us,
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"resist" him "steadfast in the faith" (I Pet.5:9). James goes on: "Draw nigh to God and
he will draw nigh to you" (v.8).
The apostle Peter commands us: "Be sober, be vigilant: because your
adversary, the devil, as a roaring lion walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" (I
Pet.5:8). Unfortunately, some have already been pulled aside, snatched off the true path,
and have been devoured.
Mystery of the Ages
Thus we get back to an enigma -- the enigma of the devil. His origin is shrouded
in mystery, but at one time he was a brilliant cherub that was "anointed" and had a
throne, and was one of only "two" twins -- cherubim that guarded the throne of the
Father. He failed to develop properly and to perform his duties, failing the tests the
Father gave him.
On the other hand, the Logos -- the only other "anointed" cherub or Angel --
succeeded, was obedient, and developed in perfect character so that He became a partner
of the Father in later creations, and qualified ultimately to be our Redeemer and Saviour,
in bringing "many sons unto glory" (Heb.2:10).
The Greatest Story of All Time
What a story! What a saga! What an eye-opening and mind-boggling drama!
More fantastic than any human fantasy -- more intriguing than the "Star Wars" saga or
trilogy -- more awesome than a Hollywood spectacular cinematic extravaganza --
stranger than the strangest fiction -- more fascinating than the tallest "tall tale."
I know the concept of Lucifer having once been a "twin" of the Logos is hard for
many people to accept. It seems so strange at first. But when we patiently sift through
the Scriptural evidence, with an open mind the truth begins to come forth. Once we
begin to get rid of the mud and the filth, and the character flaws of human nature, such as
pride, lust, and greed, and our character is changed into the image and reflection of God’s
own perfect character through trials and tests and tribulations – then our own character
will shine with the iridescence of the brilliance of a diamond, in dazzling glory, splendor
and majesty! Our own character will itself begin to dazzle and sparkle and radiate like a
shine star of the heavens.
Many still have difficulty with the concept that Christ Himself, the Logos, was a
created (or, "pro-created") being, the first creation of God. Once this hurdle is past,
however, and we "prove" and then accept the truth about the creation of Christ, we
wonder why we never saw it before! It seems so obvious, so reasonable, so logical.
Even so, if we give it enough time, and study and meditate upon it, I think the
logic and power of the "heavenly twin" hypothesis will begin to clarify, and shine, and
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evidence together.
This is the reason why Christ needed to "qualify," to "replace" Satan! If Lucifer
had been Christ's own "creation," then He would not have needed to "qualify" to replace
him! He could have just "booted him out"!
But it is not so simple as that. According to the Plan of God the Father, Christ
had to come down as a human being, and "prove" Himself, and go through suffering, and
being tempted, and yet remain faithful, loyal to God and obedient -- or else He would
have "failed." And we would have had no hope. No promise of salvation. No gift of
eternal life! By dying for us, He ransomed us -- bought us back -- redeemed us from the
kingdom of Satan and his world, and ushered us into His own Kingdom -- the Kingdom
of God.
Truly, the "secret" things belong to God. I am sure there is much more to be
learned -- that we have "only just begun" this process of learning, and discovery. As Paul
wrote, "Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the
things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them
unto us by his Spirit" (I Cor.2:9-10).
In the words of the popular song, made famous by the singer Karen Carpenter, the
revelation of God's truly mind-boggling, awesome story has "only just begun!"

Love, Walter And Debbie