General The REAL Reason for “The Season”

benadam1974

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Christmas is about the word incarnation. We sing it every year in our Christmas carols, especially in "Hark! The Herald Angels Sing." Charles Wesley wrote that, and one line you've sung says, "Veiled in flesh, the Godhead see; Hail the incarnate Deity."
 

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I rank Christmas in the same category as the immortal soul, trinity, keeping the law, liberal Christianity, Easter, once saved always saved or universal salvation. Whatever the vast majority of people believe, what is highly esteemed by men, is an abomination to God. The masses have always been wrong . Spiritually there is no truth in large numbers but in few. Jesus said, few there be that find it, not the masses.
 

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I have adjusted from the Christmas of this world to the recognition of the birth of the perfect man Yeshua. I realize the Dec 25 is not His birthday, but as the Apostle Paul once said, the least His name is spread. The same may be said of Easter as well, but it is up to me how I see it as compared to this world around me. My family is no longer disturbed by my response to these days, for they know that to me, it is about God's Son and not bunnies and St Nicholas.
 

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There is with God and Christ no single day that is more special than all others and our walk with them is every day of our lives. God is to be worshipped in SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH. The Father seeks such to worship Him. True worship is in spirit, your human spiirit with Gods spirit. He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. This joining must be in truth and no lie is of the truth, only truth sets one free. A little evil can destroy much good. A good tree cannot bear evil fruit nor can an evil tree bear good fruit. By their fruit you shall know them.
 

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Yes, LeeB, our scriptures acknowledge that this problem of the mixing of old Jewish special days with the freedom that the New Covenant brought, brings strife. I can't help but believe that my silence when an opportunity arises would not be pleasing to Yahweh. I have a difficult enough time when my brethren make trinitarian statements, but I also know that my contentiousness does not bring about a willing ear. I have to await God's timing to bring a time to share with them. I have found that my adjusting to all this is, at this point in my growth, complicated. I hate seeing this corruption of the birth of the Messiah used as a reason for a now worldly holiday. I deal with it as I can.
 

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Outcast, may I ask what organization you were with and how long has it been since you left ?
 

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I have adjusted from the Christmas of this world to the recognition of the birth of the perfect man Yeshua. I realize the Dec 25 is not His birthday, but as the Apostle Paul once said, the least His name is spread. The same may be said of Easter as well, but it is up to me how I see it as compared to this world around me. My family is no longer disturbed by my response to these days, for they know that to me, it is about God's Son and not bunnies and St Nicholas.
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Outcast, may I ask what organization you were with and how long has it been since you left ?
While my service to God's purpose was at a Baptist church, I never claimed too be a Baptist. I, and several of those in attendance also claimed to be "only" Christian. I was "asked to leave" my position about four months ago.
 
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This creation is where God gets the raw material for the next creation.
The saints are the first to have begun this recreation process but others will follow, each in their own order determined by the Father.
 

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In eternity God has always wanted to create other beings exactly like Himself but only in righteousness, holiness and love. They would be impeccable,immortal spirit beings . They would not possess those attributes that only God has like; omnipotence, omnipresence or omniscience or being eternal, with no beginning. God wants this to be their free will choice and will not force salvation on anyone. The saints from Able to when the door is shut will love God because they want to. This process seems to humanity to be completed over time when in spiritual reality was done the moment God spoke the words as God is not bound by time but humanity is. Therefore, in the process there are different opportunities presented at different times from human perspective. These are from creation until just before the great tribulation, during the great tribulation, in the millennium and then the second resurrection. God determines the when . God does this because HE is not willing that any should perish but rather come to repentance. God will select the best time for each individual so they have the best opportunity. Before the second resurrection anyone who commits the unpardonable sin will never be resurrected but in the second resurrection those who commit the unpardonable sin will be cast into the lake of fire, the second death. What we are in now is only the beginning and while this beginning harvest will be extremely small the numbers will grow as the process advances. I know this sounds way out there and I can even say it is the truth, but who am I.
 

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Yes, this is new to me. However, just as years ago, I have faith that God has a purpose for this occasion. I'm waiting to see what it is.
Outcast, you are the reason I joined this forum. I too desire sincere communication with those who are truly involved in a diligent search for God and HIS truth. If I may suggest, would you care to engage in a mutual but more private setting like email ? I would like to know what your thoughts are on any topic and I would share mine with you. Just a thought.
 

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I don't think, on this earth, that any of we followers can comprehend God's mind or reality. I do feel strongly that God gave free will in order that He can be chosen to be loved and obeyed. I am really happy with that.
Outcast, you are the reason I joined this forum. I too desire sincere communication with those who are truly involved in a diligent search for God and HIS truth. If I may suggest, would you care to engage in a mutual but more private setting like email ? I would like to know what your thoughts are on any topic and I would share mine with you. Just a thought.
We certainly could do that. My typical day starts around 3 A.M. and I don't do much thinking after 3 P.M. so my responses may not be a quick as one could hope. If you would care to email me, we could use my srbooe@medicombb.net account.