General The Creator and His agent

[benadam1974]

by carlos@thehumanjesus.org

The Genesis Creation is never said to be "from" the Son, only from God the Father. For example, Hebrews 1.2 says God the Father created all things "through" the Son. This is the standard language throughout the NT, see. John 1.10; Col 1.16; etc.

As a result, in the OT the God of Jesus is always described as a Single, Lone Creator:

Isa. 42.5 The LORD, the TRUE GOD, said these things. (HE created the sky and spread it out over the earth. HE formed the earth and everything it produced. HE breathes life into all the people on earth. HE gives a spirit to everyone who walks on the earth.)

Isa. 44.24 Thus said YHWH, your Redeemer, | And your Framer from the womb: “I [am] YHWH, doing all things, | Stretching out the heavens by Myself, | Spreading out the earth—who [is] with Me?"

Jesus and the Apostles retained the same theology throughout the NT.

Mark 10.6 “From the beginning of creation God made them male & female.”

Matt. 13.19; 19.4; Rev 3.14 “The beginning of the creation that God created.”

Acts 4.23-30 “O Lord, it is You who made the heaven & the earth & the sea, & all that is in them.”

Acts 17.22-31 “The God Who made the world & all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth.”

And many Trinitarian scholars admit these simple, scriptural facts!

Robert Bowman, Putting Jesus in His Place (pp 190-91) notes "that the NT never says that all things are from (ek) the Son."

Paine, A Critical History of the Evolution of Trinitarianism, 1900, p. 4. "The OT is strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a Trinity is to be found there is utterly without foundation. There’s no break between the OT and New. The monotheistic tradition is continued. Jesus was a Jew, trained by Jewish parents in the OT scriptures. His teaching was Jewish to the core; a new gospel indeed but not a new theology…And he accepted as his own belief the great text of Jewish monotheism: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one God.”

The Moody Bible Commentary on Isa 44.24
"God’s proclamation begins with the assertion 'I, the LORD, am the maker of all things' and continues with the declaration identifying God’s activities as including 'stretching out the heavens by Myself and spreading out the earth all alone.' God’s position as Creator implies His capacity to maintain order within creation. God’s acts of creation were comprehensive, meaning that no other god created anything. God created alone. He needed no help in stretching out the heavens or spreading out the earth. He brought it about by His power alone. No god stood before God, against God, or with God in the formation of the world."

 

[LeeB]

A created being cannot be the creator. Psalm 22:10 The person in this Psalm is Jesus who only had a God from his mothers womb. Not only does this prove Jesus cannot be God but that he was created in the womb by God. Isaiah 49:1 reaffirms the time of the calling of Jesus and Isaiah 49:5 states that God formed or created Jesus in the womb not to be a Godman but a servant of God. Jesus was called by Gods name and created for Gods glory as are all the saints. God formed and made them all. Isaiah 43:7