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SEARCHING FOR TRUTH IS LIKE A PUZZLE


There are scriptures that on the surface are true but by themselves do not give the complete truth . John said, John 1:17 , was the law given by Moses not the truth ? Paul said, Romans 7:12 , On the surface this seems to be a contradiction. In order to understand how these two verses do not contradict but actually clarify and confirm a foundational biblical truth we must examine other scriptures that help clarify. Hebrews 10:1 Colossians 2:17 Jeremiah 31:31,32,33,34 So then, the law was given to be a physical symbolic shadow of the work of GOD through HIS son the Christ who showed the fulfillment of the law to be his GODS love and righteousness that was created in him by his GOD and FATHER . The law was given to define good and evil, to serve as a deterrent to sin, to kill sinners and physically reward its followers, to truly convict all of humanity of sin and consign them all to death so that each human being in the order GOD will determine be given HIS spirit and first and only opportunity for salvation and finally as a schoolmaster to lead broken contrite human spirits to GODLY sorrow delivering them to Christ for repentance, forgiveness, baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit. There is much more I could add but I hope the point was made.

Another scripture, John 3:13 , no man ascends to heaven. This agrees with 1 Corinthians 15:50 . If you have the knowledge that a human is a soul, the combination of dust and breath or body and human spirit and that at death the body returns to dust but the human spirit returns to GOD who gave it, then... The reality of what a human is is spirit. We are all a human spirit in a fleshly body. For the reason of salvation flesh is worthless as it is the spirits of just humans that are made perfect. This human spirit is the real you and your flesh is a temporary dwelling, tent or earthen vessel that has no value to GOD . We are like the nut inside the shell. So then all people saint or sinner at death go to GOD but without a body there is no life. These spirits wait to be assigned by GOD a time for resurrection, some to immortality in a spirit body and some to mortal life in a fleshly body. So then, everyone goes to heaven when they die but in a complete and total unconscious state.

Another scripture, Matthew 6:9 , this gives the reader the impression that GOD is in a place called heaven. Who created space or place ? Time, space, matter and energy were all created by GOD. GOD is not and cannot be contained by something HE created or by anything as HE is omnipresent or present in all things, places and times after HE created them all. Heaven cannot be a place. It is the condition and state of existence of GOD HIMSELF. See and carefully read Strongs article G1722 “the condition or state in which something operates from within” . GOD inhabits eternity which is timelessness unending unbeginning everpresentness. GODS presence is in all that exists else it would not exist. To be in “heaven” is to be aware and to directly experience being in the presence of GOD ALMIGHTY.

These were only a few examples of how truth can be in parts or segments like a puzzle. Often many try to reshape a piece of the puzzle to fit their narrative and make the puzzle picture unrecognizable. This is how ideas like the immortal soul, the rapture and trinity came to be. They do not search diligently enough and have stopped short of finding how the puzzle pieces fit. Rather than alter the puzzle pieces they need to alter their ideas and thoughts to be spiritual and not carnal. GOD designed scripture to correct us, we don’t correct scripture.

Therefore we all go to heaven when we die and if we fulfilled the law while alive be raised from the dead an immortal impeccable spirit being ruling with Christ in the kingdom of GOD.
 
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You lost me with your last sentence: Therefore we all go to heaven when we die and if we fulfilled the law while alive be raised from the dead an immortal impeccable spirit being ruling with Christ in the kingdom of GOD.
How am I to take this after reading: If you think a certain scripture says that you go to heaven or hell immediately after death then it would be in conflict with other scriptures that say the exact opposite. The bible cannot contradict itself but a biased thought in your mind could be wrong so as to make you think it does. The idea of instantly going to heaven or hell after death makes judgment day for each person at the time of death rather than collectively, for all people, at the great white throne judgment. How many times are we to be judged, if a person dies and goes to heaven or hell you would think that judgment has already been rendered, why have another for all people at the great white throne? Why have a resurrection of the dead if the dead are alive in heaven or hell?

At death, I expect to wait on earth for the last day. I expect to go nowhere, but the last day's arrival will seem to be instantaneous.
 

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All humans are a spirit in a temporary body of dust. At death the body returns to dust but the real you, your human spirit returns to GOD who gave it. This spirit is dormant, cannot function in any way and is called “sleep “ by Christ and Paul. John 11:11,12,13,14,15 1 Corinthians 15:51 1 Thessalonians 4:13,14 Psalm 13:3 The saint in the first resurrection will receive spirit bodies while those in the second resurrection will be flesh and blood again. 2 Corinthians 5:1 The saints are to become what Christ is now, a spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:45 All peoples human spirits , saint or sinner go to heaven when they die in a totally inactive dormant state and all await a resurrection, first or second. Both Christ and Stephen prayed for GOD to receive their spirit. Luke 23:46 Acts 7:59 Ecclesiastes 12:7 Psalm 31:5 The image GOD created man in is not dust but spirit for GOD is not dust but spirit.
 

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You lost me with your last sentence: Therefore we all go to heaven when we die and if we fulfilled the law while alive be raised from the dead an immortal impeccable spirit being ruling with Christ in the kingdom of GOD.
How am I to take this after reading: If you think a certain scripture says that you go to heaven or hell immediately after death then it would be in conflict with other scriptures that say the exact opposite. The bible cannot contradict itself but a biased thought in your mind could be wrong so as to make you think it does. The idea of instantly going to heaven or hell after death makes judgment day for each person at the time of death rather than collectively, for all people, at the great white throne judgment. How many times are we to be judged, if a person dies and goes to heaven or hell you would think that judgment has already been rendered, why have another for all people at the great white throne? Why have a resurrection of the dead if the dead are alive in heaven or hell?

At death, I expect to wait on earth for the last day. I expect to go nowhere, but the last day's arrival will seem to be instantaneous.
People that believe in instant judgment, heaven or hell and also believe they are conscious and aware, alive in another place. This is called life after death which is a lie. Life isn’t death and death is not life. Everyone does go to GOD or heaven at death but not alive, not judged. This false thought of life after death is also called the immortal soul. The article you quote did not go into the subject far enough to include what really happens after death.
 
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Understanding this information is part of the Christian foundation. Some have had difficulty with the claim Jesus made, John8:42 , John 8:14 , John 13:3 , John 16:27,28 because it sounds too much like Jesus is GOD. The proper understanding of the soul, (body and human spirit) relieves any stress about trinitarian issues. Jesus came from GOD and went back to GOD, Well, we all do. This should not be shocking news. Unitarians desire to show the humanity of Christ, well, this information confirms that Jesus had a human spirit that came from GOD and when he died that spirit went back to GOD just as it is for all humans.
GOD is the FATHER of spirits, Hebrews 12:9 and can do whatever HE desires with spirits. GOD can put knowledge into the spirits of the craftsmen who built the ark, Exodus 31:1,2,3,4,6,7 GOD can have the spirit of Balaams donkey speak , Numbers 22:20 or do the reverse with Nebuchadnezzar, Daniel 4:16 Therefore it is possible for GOD to create a singular righteous man, a man of agape incapable of sin who would be HIS son and the Messiah. GOD plans to recreate HIS saints in the image of the Messiah who was the image of GOD.
You see how everything must add up, putting truth together under guidance of the Holy Spirit so that it cannot be broken. Add each truth learned to your spiritual foundation and when exploring new information use the foundation to draw on to help determine validity. Truth plus truth plus truth equals truth. No lie is of the truth. GODS truth is like an unbreakable chain with each link a truth connected to link after link.