General Sabbath Questions

[benadam1974]

SABBATH LAW FROM GENESIS?
Genesis 1 says God stopped work, not rested, on the “seventh” (shebiith) not shabbath day. Nowhere did God tell Adam or Eve or anyone else to keep Sabbath before Moses at Sinai (Cp. Deut. 5:3; Neh. 9.14). There’s no Jewish history, tradition, commentary, past or present, that supports a Genesis-Sabbath keeping.

JESUS, APOSTLES BREAK THE SABBATH?
In John 5:17 Jesus doubles down on the Jewish charge of breaking the Sabbath saying to the Jewish leaders: “To this very day [i.e., the Sabbath day] My Father is at His work, and I too am working. For this reason," John reports, the Jews "tried all the more to kill" Jesus because he was "breaking the Sabbath"! As a result, Jesus was "making himself equal with God," i.e., Jesus was putting himself on par with God when it came to the Sabbath law.
And similar to John 5 Jesus goes on to say to those Jewish critics in Mat 12:7
“You would not have condemned my innocent disciples if you knew the meaning of this Scripture: ‘I want you to show mercy, not offer sacrifices.’ 8 For the Son of Man is Lord, even over the Sabbath!'
That means Jesus, the Messiah, the prophet greater than Moses, has now been given the unique authority to be master over the Sabbath.
Jesus and his followers are now under the new covenant freedom to either rest or work on any given day, including the Sabbath.

 

[LeeB]

The Sabbath and all the law was a shadow but Jesus was the substance.
Under the law the ”rest” was only physical but under Christ it is spiritual.
Under the law it was your works , your duty to keep all 613 commandments of the Torah and to break one is to break them all and the punishment was death. The letter kills, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was the old covenant, the new covenant is the tree of life.
The first Adam ate the wrong fruit, the second Adam is the fruit to life for unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood you have no life in you. The Christian is in the true rest in Christ from trying to keep a law that can only kill you. Every day is the Sabbath for the saints who in faith stopped working themselves to death to let God work in them to life. The law was given in response to what Eve thought she could do by eating the fruit of the tree of death. Genesis 3:4-6 Jesus fulfilled the law with Gods love for love is the fulfillment of the law. If you and I as saints sabbath in Christ we are not breaking the law, we are fulfilling the law. Romans 3:31 If Jesus had broken the sabbath he would have sinned and that would not be good for humanity. The two commandments of love God and neighbor are greater than the Ten Commandments. Mark 12:31 , the substance is greater than the shadow, reality is greater than symbolism.

 

[Bvenski]

I'll just comment that we don't have to keep Exodus 20:8-11 to the letter, because we are in Christ. Jesus was given all power and authority, by his Father, which includes being made lord of the Sabbath. Jesus worked on the Sabbath, his disciples worked on the Sabbath and so do I and others.

 

[LeeB]

I'll just comment that we don't have to keep Exodus 20:8-11 to the letter, because we are in Christ. Jesus was given all power and authority, by his Father, which includes being made lord of the Sabbath. Jesus worked on the Sabbath, his disciples worked on the Sabbath and so do I and others.

Saints keep the Sabbath by not doing their own works in the law but by God working in them by His Spirit.
Jesus was the fulfillment of the law, Matthew 5:17 , if we are in Jesus we also fulfill the law. Isaiah 42:21, a prophecy of Jesus magnifying the law TO MAKE IT HONORABLE to include the thoughts and intents of the heart, to empower the saints with Gods Holy Spirit thus establishing the law in the righteousness of God . Our faith does not void the law, we are saved by grace through faith not in our own righteousness which we thought we had under the law but in the righteousness of God by our faith. Philippians 3:7-9

 

[LeeB]

On the other topic about Jesus breaking the Sabbath; Jesus fulfilled the shadow with the substance, Jesus was our Sabbath of which the shadow pointed to. Hebrews 10:1 How can the fulfillment of a shadow be breaking any law ?