General Did the Son "come down out of heaven" and became human?

[benadam1974]

From the Old to the New Testament the idea of God becoming man is not only incompatible with scripture but warned against. For example, human forms are clearly included as a type of idol worship, Exodus 20.4; Romans 1.25.
German scholar Heinz Zahrnt noted that the Nicene claim meant that "Jesus Christ was no longer a man of flesh and blood like ourselves, but a heavenly being of supernatural origin in human form."

"With the help of a metaphysical system taken over from Greek philosophy" amd thus "the Church has been in danger of docetism from the very beginning."
"The Son of God was endowed with wonderful, indeed miraculous, qualities, to such an extent that his feet scarcely seemed any longer to touch the ground. What happened to this Christ was no longer the fate of a man but the fate of a remarkable, shadowy, fairy-tale figure, half man and half God." (The Historical Jesus, 1963)

And another German scholar, Isaak August Dorner, was right to ask:

“How shall we determine the nature of the distinction between the God who became man and the God who did not become man, without destroying the unity of God on the one hand or interfering with Christology on the other? Neither the Council of Nicea nor the Church Fathers of the fourth century satisfactorily answered this question.” (The History of the Development of the Doctrine of the Person of Christ, Edinburgh: T & T Clark, 1882, Div. I, Vol. 2, p. 330.)

 

[LeeB]

The people who developed the trinity came from polytheism , they were carnal minded. Even when they became the Roman Catholic church they were still carnal. What most believe today comes from their carnal minds. The Roman Catholic church is not the outgrowth of the Pentecost church. For people with the Holy Spirit this should be easy to see.

 

[LeeB]

The human spirit is the real person, the body is a temporary dwelling, as Peter said , a tent. It is the human spirit that gives life and animates the flesh. God is the creator of all spirits. Human spirits all come from God and at death return to God. In this way all people came from heaven and return there with their spirit deactivated but not dead. This is why Jesus said he came from heaven and was going back to heaven, we all do. Jesus though after his resurrection had to ascend into glory, something the saints have yet to do, Jesus was the first born of many.