General Did the Son come “down from heaven….and became man”?

[benadam1974]

By carlos@thehumanjesus.org

From the Old to the NT the idea of God becoming man is not only incompatible with scripture but warned against. For example, human forms are clearly included as a type of idol worship in Exodus 20.4; Romans 1.25.

So talk of the Son being “sent” by the Father is to be understood as a created commission. The noted Catholic German scholar Karl Rahner was right to say “the Son’s mission does not mean that the one sent existed as such before he was sent. In my view the mission may imply the creation of the man Jesus.” (A New Christology)

And another German scholar, Isaak August Dorner, was right to ask:

“How shall we determine the nature of the distinction between the God who became man and the God who did not become man, without destroying the unity of God on the one hand or interfering with Christology on the other? Neither the Council of Nicea nor the Church Fathers of the fourth century satisfactorily answered this question.”
(The History of the Development of the Doctrine of the Person of Christ, Edinburgh: T & T Clark, 1882, Div. I, Vol. 2, p. 330.)

 

[LeeB]

In order to not violate the trinity doctrine of distinct but NOT SEPARATE Jesus would have had to be all three persons of the trinity. If only one person of the trinity became Christ, a man, this would be an obvious separation from the other two . During the time when Christ the man was on Earth was there a binary God ? If all three became a man was there no God ? God in the flesh has to be Father, Son and Holy Spirit in the flesh otherwise there would be a separation and when God died all three died and there would be no one to perform a resurrection. Trinitarians have killed God.

 

[Bvenski]

In order to not violate the trinity doctrine of distinct but NOT SEPARATE Jesus would have had to be all three persons of the trinity. If only one person of the trinity became Christ, a man, this would be an obvious separation from the other two . During the time when Christ the man was on Earth was there a binary God ? If all three became a man was there no God ? God in the flesh has to be Father, Son and Holy Spirit in the flesh otherwise there would be a separation and when God died all three died and there would be no one to perform a resurrection. Trinitarians have killed God.

Well......they can't kill the God. They made themselves a "fancy", convoluted idol. Like Carlos mentioned above, they completely disregard Exodus 20:4. But you are right, Jesus would have had to be all 3 persons of the trinity, which I guess would lead to modalism.

 

[LeeB]

Killing God is a figurative way of what the trinity does in the minds of those who fall for the doctrine.

 

[Bvenski]

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