With the tremendous level of deception that exists today why are so many seemingly comfortable to be part of whatever group they belong to? The warnings given by the prophets, Jesus and Apostles have no impact or relevance. The evidence is all around them but they refuse to see it. There are 40,000 different churches, are all of them Gods? I have seen this tremendous level of deception for many years but notice that most do not understand it or realize the threat it is. When Revelation 12:9 informs of the degree of deception the future holds for humanity, you would think it would cause great concern. God always knew this would happen, that is why many are called but few are chosen. God would choose those over time whose names were written in the book of life from the foundation of the world. God knows who will be His people throughout all time. Since the end of the apostolic Era with massive deception growing God took the control totally away from men over the church. Since the death of the last Apostle, John, all of once was the organized true church of God was over and replaced with a very small remnant of true saints no longer organized in the previous manner but now under the direct management of God and Christ. Due to the tremendous amount of lies and deception each member of the church had to become a prophet or prophetess so that Gods Spirit alone would be preacher and teacher of those God would call and choose. Each saint would have this connection to God through Jesus. All Spiritual knowledge, wisdom, understanding and gifts would be available. There is no middleman in the relationship between God and the saints except Jesus Christ. The Apostles were eliminated because they all died. God has no middlemen today, no human preachers or teachers, God and Christ are doing everything in the church. To place any human being in some position that people think is a leader or teacher opens the door for Satan to introduce lies and deception. I do not care what person you have elevated in your mind as some great man of God, he is not, because they, the Apostles , are all dead and total control of the church is now in the hands of God and Christ. Human preachers and teachers set themselves up and people view them in an elite fashion being impressed by titles, education or knowing languages. Some of these types even know a lot of truth but the undeserved adoration of the people drive their carnal egos to think they are something they are not. These types want to restore the church to what is was in the first century. As far as Gods truth is concerned that is good, but the organization of the church has changed. Look how many churches or groups today have had men who lead them cause pain, suffering and abuse while also teaching lies. There are many if not all. How many times did I personally have to fall for this myself before I finally learned the lesson to not put my trust in men, three times, then God intervened in my life. I must confess that God showed me things that were a bitter pill to swallow about myself, others and the world. Psalm 34:17 , 1John 2:20-22 How many times must you fall for this 21st century deception before you finally see that what I am sharing with you here is the truth? I cannot give you the understanding, only Gods Holy Spirit can do that and God is in control not me or any other man.
General DECEPTION
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Calvinism?
What gifts exactly?
For me personally, I want to fellowship with others that want to meet and believe as first century believers did. I'm not putting any man before that but there are some men/teachers that help us appreciate things. Can't the holy spirit be using some men to give us insight we may be not privy to. Or do you believe we can only have a 1:1 revelation from holy spirit?
Each Christian has a one one relationship with God through Christ. Personally, I have had the Spirit teach me things by using false preachers. Fellowship is when saints meet and talk about things and as they do something may be revealed by the Spirit to one of them then, 1 Corinthians 14:29-33 is applied. All those present listen and the Holy Spirit will then pass the message to all. This makes everyone equal and important. We must always remember it was not the man or woman who prophesied that had the knowledge, it was a revelation from God and when this person spoke what they were given the rest considered and the Spirit would also inform them. I want to know what first century Christians believed too but today that is in the direct power of God bypassing men due to the tremendous amount of lies and deception caused by men.
No. Truth of God. God would not be omniscient if there was anything He did not know. The names of all are recorded in the book of life. God for knew all things , Isaiah 46:10 is this not one example given to prove Jesus was not God, the lack of His attributes.
The Holy Spirit, His love, faith, hope , spiritual wisdom and understanding, humbleness, proper fear of God and the promises given to the saints.
These men can share with others what has been given them and the Spirit is what imparts understanding to all thus God receives all the glory, not any man. Zechariah 4:6. We should elevate no man because all drink of the same Spirit. You LoriJane, are in Gods eyes equal to Anthony Buzzard. All of Anthony’s education or relationship to royalty means nothing to God, it is all worldly. It is the Spirit in Anthony and in you that deserves all glory, honor and respect not me, not you not Anthony. If we lose sight of this it is not good. I know Anthony from e-mails and phone conversations. Anthony and I were both former members of the Worldwide Church of God. I am well aware of what Anthony teaches and some of it is wrong but Anthony will not hear me out when I attempt to communicate with him. Juan Baixeras had the same problem with Anthony. This is the danger of having one man or group of them “ in charge” like in the JW’s or the WCG. I have shared many things here and some of them have addressed Anthony’s incorrect teachings, some you have read yourself, only to share what I have received from the Spirit. I consider you and Anthony fellow saints but you LoriJane have done something Anthony refuses to do, hear me out before you judge. If you have learned anything from what I write it will not be because of me, it is because of the Holy Spirit.
I'm not comfortable with calling out people individually. I respect Anthony and I respect you. I don't agree wtih everything Anthony believes nor do I believe everything you have shared. I do take in all thoughts and chew on them so to speak.
Sometimes we plant our flag on a certain understandings we've come to have. If we are not persuasive enough to convince others of our position then we have to leave it at the alter and let holy spirit make things clear to both parties.
1 Corinthians 1:10 , Ephesians 4:4-6 As the world did not know Jesus the world does not know his people. Those who are of the truth hear the voice of Jesus , John 18:37 , Acts 22:9 , Hebrews 3:7 This voice comes to the human spirits of the saints and is the only teacher. Jesus said the Spirit is the teacher. There are those who are absolutely convinced that they are Christians in good standing with Christ however Christ will reject them , Luke 6:46-49 , Matthew 7:21-23. There is only one body, church or bride not 45,000 , 1 Corinthians 10:12