General Being a Christian is not that simple.

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Lk 14:25–33 Now great crowds accompanied him, and he turned and said to them, “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple. For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish.’ Or what king, going out to encounter another king in war, will not sit down first and deliberate whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? And if not, while the other is yet a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks for terms of peace. So therefore, any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple."

I suspect that many do not take this passage to heart.

From my observations, people like the idea of easy Christianity. We go to a church, meet friendly people, sing songs along with them, eat at their banquets, and get a sense of belonging. They tells us "how to be saved," and eventually walk forward and claim Christ. The people line up to congratulate us on our salvation. (They never mentioned Luke 14, though.)

In some churches, after we are trained in doctrines, and we are considered eligible for Baptism. Others just schedule a day to be dunked.

Then the trouble starts.

We go through the "Mr. Do Bee & Mr. Don't Bee" lessons.

Depending on the denomination, we learn to live by the Ten Commandments (some of them, anyway) and to give our 10%.

We may or may not give up our beer and wine, our cigarettes, our pool hall, etc., etc. We learn to "speak in tongues," or criticize those who do. We memorize bible verses (which tend to support the doctrines we have been taught).

Then we get praised for being such good Christians. After all, we gave up all the things we were told that Christians don't do.

Ever really wonder why Yeshua told us to count the cost? None of those things we gave up equals the items in the list Luke gives us. Consider how difficult those things in Yeshua's list actually are. The Apostles did suffer much - it really cost them to be His disciples - even unto death.

If we have experienced none of those costs, perhaps we should examine ourselves. Was it only for those twelve?
 
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What does it mean to “renounce all that he has”. Renounce means: To formally declare one’s abandonment of a claim, right or possession. To refuse or resign a right or position. To give up , refuse or resign by formal declaration. As Paul said, 1 Corinthians 6:19,20 , We die to this life , Colossians 3:3 Everything in this life is nothing when compared to the life YAHWEH offers us. Matthew 16:26.
 
I think Yeshua was serious with his announcement. He also said:

Luke 18: 20-22: You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.’ ” And he said, “All these I have kept from my youth.” When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

The same story is told in Mark 10:17-22 and Matthew 19:16-23

People have a lot of difficulty changing their lifestyle to match what Yahweh requires. I think maybe the difficulty is caused by the absence of the Spirit of God in a person's life. This young man was "very rich." It is not said in the passage specifically, but I would imagine his obedience to Christ would also bring him to losing his family as well. Without the power of God's spirit in the Christian, obedience is very difficult to understand and even more difficult to do.

We tend to be like children in that we then ask:

"But how much do I have to give?"
"Do I have to be penniless?"
"Can I keep my {__________} anyway?
" I can't help it, and since I am made that way ..............."
 
Jesus knew that keeping the Ten Commandments does not provide salvation. Paul explains that the righteousness of the law was self righteousness but the righteousness of GOD by faith is imputed to the one of faith and the law is then agape, Philippians 3:9 it is the two greatest commandments of love GOD and neighbor. Agape is the fulfillment of the law. We died with Christ as a living sacrifice so that when we are resurrected we will be in the image of the son of GOD.
In this world we have no rights or claims as we are owned by GOD, bought with a price. Our minds are to be focused on things above, we are to be spiritually minded, we come out from the world and be separate from it having No fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness. We are to live our lives as if we are in the kingdom now. Paul was more than willing to suffer the loss of all things, Philippians 3:8
These “all things” are of this world . This requires balance, it is not saying we become hermits but examples, shine as lights in a world of darkness.
 
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Our issue right now is that the world of darkness covers our potential lights because the light makes them uncomfortable.

After the reactions I received a couple years ago, it occurred to me that my friends did not want to be challenged on the things they said they believed. They were content to be blind, and -for some- I was the disruption.

Yes, it hurt to be shunned by the majority. But once God gives a person conviction of His truth, there is no turning back.

All I can do now, for what it is worth, is to cause the few who will to ponder their beliefs. I think that fear of being set apart from their group is the thing that kills growth. The pattern considered to be "growth" has been set by denominations and being different is prohibited.
 
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We recognize that GOD is not choosing them at this time and that Satan blinds the minds of them from understanding. . We know also that in the past we were the same and still would be without GOD drawing us to HIS son. I think one reason why there are few chosen is because the chosen will repent whereas others will not. In the book of Revelation this refusal to repent is the big reason for the continued punishment by GOD. Those who do not repent will perish.
 
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