General Already….Not Yet..?

benadam1974

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According to my BibleWorks 10 the word “Kingdom” appears around 113 times throughout the Gospels:
* c. 50 times in Matthew;
* c. 40 times in Luke;
* c. 20 times in Mark;
* 3 times in John 3.3, 5; 18.36.

The emphasis is overwhelmingly on a future Kingdom of God that will one day be established on earth.

I found only 3 possible exceptions (for sure) where Jesus describes the Kingdom as in some sense present during his ministry:
* Mat 12:28, “But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you." Cp. Luke 11.20;
* Luke 17:21, the KOG is in your midst, within you.

According to my stats that's 3 out of 113 times or only 2% of the time!

So a good question to ask the “Already...Not Yet” teacher is:
Did Jesus change the OT definition and description of the kingdom as a future event only?

Or did Paul when he asked the church at Corinth:
“Already you have all you want!
Already you have become rich!
Already you have begun to reign!”

Already….Not yet?!
 

LeeB

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The kingdom was here in the sense that it’s king was here.
The kingdom is here in the sense that it’s future subjects, the church, we’re being elected and by the Holy Spirit and taught spiritual knowledge. God and Jesus , the angels, prophets and Apostles often spone or wrote in prophetic perfect tense, a style of speaking or writing that describes future events, certain to happen, to be referred to in past tense. Romans 4:17
 

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Does it seem a bit confusing that, at the end of days, the Kingdom of God's King Jesus will return all authority back to the one who gave it? There will then be only God in authority with no king.

1 Co 15:24–28 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For “God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.
 

LeeB

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Also 1 Corinthians 11:3 , in all times and untime God is deserving of all glory, glory to God in the highest, this is fitting because Yahweh is the creator.
 
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