General A CLOSER LOOK AT BAPTISM

ANOTHER CLOSER LOOK AT BAPTISM ​

If anyone desires to know the truth about any spiritual subject they need to ask many questions. Jesus said, "Ask, seek, knock" , we must never accept anything without a thorough examination and never assume anything. With this in mind I will address the subject of baptism again but in greater detail asking, seeking and knocking searching the truth . I believe that after coming to realize that we have been deceived by a cult that there are lessons to be learned by that experience. We need to follow what scripture says about coming out of darkness and into light. In spiritual reality none of us took ourselves out of the cult we were in, YAHWEH did. It is YAHWEH who adds to the church such as should be saved. Acts 2:47 If you have read the article about how YAHWEH manipulates spirits then you may have understanding of how you were called and chosen. No one chooses YAHWEH, YAHWEH chooses you. If YAHWEH had not chosen you you would still be in that cult.
Paul would had continued to kill Christians, Matthew would had just been a tax collector and Peter a fisherman.

When we all came to Simply Christian we came out of some kind of deception or cult that in time we came to see was a lie. Ask, would GOD lead me into a lie or did I chose to join the cult ? Psalm 23:1,2,3 Does this align with your experience ?
GOD does not lead anyone into a cult but HE can take you out of one. Why did we join the cult ? Was it not because we thought the cult had the truth ? Did we not with all our hearts believe that cult ? Would a converted person willingly and knowingly join a cult ? Would a converted person believe what the cult says ? When we are converted don’t we know the truth in order to be converted in the first place ? The truth about GOD, Christ, the gospel and prophecy of the future. John 14:16,17,26 , John 15:26 , John 16:13,14,15 Did these things happen to us when we were in the cult ? What was the symbolic practice that we did to become a member of our cult ? Was it not baptism ? What were were baptized into ? We could lie to ourselves and say that we knew the truth but we did not else we would have never joined a cult to begin with. Let’s not deceive ourselves.

There is only one baptism that really matters and I confess that when I was baptized into the cult of the Worldwide Church of God I was not converted, I didn’t have the Holy Spirit and I was not a Christian before or after until GOD called me out of the cult and revealed to me the truth. This caused me to be cut to the heart, circumcised of the heart and the same message that Peter preached on the day of Pentecost applied to me. Acts 2:38 When you and I were in the cult we were deceived, we did not know the truth, how then could we have been converted, how could being baptized into a cult make us Christians ?

GOD called us but how do we answer that call, again Acts 2:38 . Satan wants us to think that our baptism into a cult is that real one true baptism in Christ. There is no difference between us and the people Peter preached to on Pentecost, Acts 2:38 , except the type of cult we were in, they a cult of Judaism and we a cult of false Christianity. A cult is not Christian so why would their baptism be. It is impossible to deceive a true Christian because they are taught by GOD through Jesus Christ. Matthew 24:24 John 8:32 John 6:45 John 14:6 Isaiah 54:13 1 Thessalonians 4:9 To think that a baptism into a cult is synonymous with baptism in Christ is calling evil good. Isaiah 5:20 Malachi 2:17 We were baptized into a cult, that is the hard cold truth and leaving that cult is only the first step, Acts 2:38 are the next steps. If you are able to see this take those steps. 1 Corinthians 10:20,21 2 Corinthians 6:15,16 Mark 16:16

It is not my desire to offend anyone but as I have often said I am only here to share with you what the spirit of YAHWEH has given me. I cannot teach you but YAHWEH can. Search the scriptures and see how the process of conversion works. In every case even with the house of Cornelius baptism was practiced and each and every person prior to the beginning of this process was in the world without YAHWEH, without hope. Ephesians 2:12 Yes, this is a personal decision , YAHWEH called you, will you answer. Mark 16:16 John 3:5 1 Peter 3:21

 

[Petunia]

Ecclesiastes 3:1-2

 

[LeeB]

Ecclesiastes 3:1-2

2 Corinthians 6:2

 

[Outcast]

At the time of my first baptism, I was 12 years old. Years later, after returning to scripture (I thought), I submitted to be baptized again - thinking my absence from Yahweh needed to be corrected. The verses I previously posted are still in scripture, but one thing became a reality to me years afterward.

Working in Singapore - desperately seeking a closer walk with Yeshua and communication with His Father, the answer came to my mind that the thing I lacked was total surrender to God. I was still operating in the way of man - local church and ministry. I withheld my self from that surrender, because I thought I had done so already. Without unnecessary description, I surrendered in my hotel room. I believe it was at that very time that I completed my baptism.

I am go glad that Yahweh has patience for my stubborn and blinded self.

 

[LeeB]

At the time of my first baptism, I was 12 years old. Years later, after returning to scripture (I thought), I submitted to be baptized again - thinking my absence from Yahweh needed to be corrected. The verses I previously posted are still in scripture, but one thing became a reality to me years afterward.

Working in Singapore - desperately seeking a closer walk with Yeshua and communication with His Father, the answer came to my mind that the thing I lacked was total surrender to God. I was still operating in the way of man - local church and ministry. I withheld my self from that surrender, because I thought I had done so already. Without unnecessary description, I surrendered in my hotel room. I believe it was at that very time that I completed my baptism.

I am go glad that Yahweh has patience for my stubborn and blinded self.

The group I fellowship with at first were all ex members of the WCG . Upon realizing that we were not Christian, not converted, without the Holy Spirit but we knew the spirit was with us but not yet in us. John 14:17 We were led to see that we needed to do what every person YAHWEH calls needs to do, Acts 2:38. We had no fit man to do the baptism and were then shown what to do. We all got into a swimming pool and we prayed that YAHWEH would have mercy on us and since there was no fit man that YAHWEH would stretch HIS hands to us , lay them upon us, and we went under the water and then rose up and received HIS Holy Spirit. After this our growth exploded with new revelations coming almost daily. That was over 30 years ago and over those years we gained and lost people who we had fellowship with and currently have 5 people and one of them is 88 years old in poor health and near death. We have meetings whenever we can, we have a meal, we study, we pray, we discuss world events and at the close partake of bread and wine. Even if a person is physically alone they can still be baptized by YAHWEH and spiritually are never alone because YAHWEH and Christ will never leave you or forsake you.

 

[Outcast]

The group I fellowship with at first were all ex members of the WCG . Upon realizing that we were not Christian, not converted, without the Holy Spirit but we knew the spirit was with us but not yet in us. John 14:17 We were led to see that we needed to do what every person YAHWEH calls needs to do, Acts 2:38. We had no fit man to do the baptism and were then shown what to do. We all got into a swimming pool and we prayed that YAHWEH would have mercy on us and since there was no fit man that YAHWEH would stretch HIS hands to us , lay them upon us, and we went under the water and then rose up and received HIS Holy Spirit. After this our growth exploded with new revelations coming almost daily. That was over 30 years ago and over those years we gained and lost people who we had fellowship with and currently have 5 people and one of them is 88 years old in poor health and near death. We have meetings whenever we can, we have a meal, we study, we pray, we discuss world events and at the close partake of bread and wine. Even if a person is physically alone they can still be baptized by YAHWEH and spiritually are never alone because YAHWEH and Christ will never leave you or forsake you.

Thank you for your story, LeeB.